Navigating the labyrinth of self-acceptance, together!

Ever feel like everyone else has their life together while you're still fumbling around trying to figure out basic emotions, let alone algebra? Well, breathe easy, dear listener, because we all have our share of 'stuff' going on, yes, even Brené Brown! Tune in to our enlightening discussion where we unveil the empowering notion that it's perfectly okay to not have your life neatly packaged with a bow on top. We dive into the importance of self-dialogue in understanding our reactions and why acceptance, as difficult as it may be, is essential for personal growth.

What if we told you that your struggles don't make you an anomaly but rather make you part of a shared human experience? Stirring the pot further, we expose the dangers of unhealthy comparisons and the pitfalls of assuming everyone else is just peachy. The liberating power of acknowledging our own shortcomings and reaching out for help makes its way into our conversation, shedding light on the transformative potential of taking responsibility for our actions.

Feeling nostalgic? Our quirky confessions and strolls down memory lane are sure to tickle you while we engage in a profound discussion around societal constructs of acceptance and self-worth. You can't miss our insights on how the media influences our perception of acceptance and the need to understand and respect others' narratives. So buckle up for an episode teeming with laughter, self-discovery, and revelations that may well change how you view yourself and others. You're not alone on this journey; let’s navigate the labyrinth of self-acceptance together.

Love Lynne and Tracey xx 

Chapters

• 0:00 Accepting and Understanding Our Emotions
• 11:05 Importance of Acceptance and Taking Responsibility
• 25:38 The Importance of Acceptance and Self-Worth
• 37:57 Weird Confession Time and Nostalgia

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:43

two Off, we go and we're back again, back in the room. It's one of those mornings that's fine, absolutely fine. Those mornings happen, those days happen, those weeks sometimes happen. Oh, we want about aunt and Deca and let's get ready to rumble and we're back there. Only songs that they did. That makes sense. That's the only song I know then. No, I'm sure they did others, I just don't remember what they were. No, I don't remember either.

Speaker 1: 1:28

No, aunt and Deca are not high on my Spotify list, to be perfectly honest. No, they're not on my Spotify list either. Not that I don't dislike them, they're even on my Spotify list. But there we are, I don't think they're on my either. Not that we don't love you, aunt and Deca, if you're listening, but Do you think aunt and Deca are listening? You never know. They might come across us somewhere. Wouldn't that be an alarm if they weren't Interesting? Do you know what? I think we need to send this to aunt and Deca now. How do we do that? Do you reckon they'll listen? I don't know. Do you reckon we can make them? Yeah, come to us, aunt and Deca. We know how to make you famous. Yeah, cool, I bet we can sort out some of their shit though. Oh, absolutely, absolutely, we could sort out some of that stuff going on. Do you know what?

Speaker 1: 2:29

I was thinking that in the week when we did that poll thing yeah, how, like we all I think I said something there, didn't I In my post like how we all think everybody else has got their shit together, oh God, yeah. And actually like nobody has. No, nobody has. No, I mean, that is a big bold statement to make, but I have no plans about making it Like nobody has all their shit together. No, nobody, and I get nobody. No, literally, no matter how much stuff about it, you know, even the likes of Brené Brown has still not got our shit together. Yeah, there's still pieces in there. Yeah, absolutely, that default comes in. Yeah, when it's something. Oh my God, yeah, like you say, it does the slightest of things. It only just takes, yeah, that default like a millisecond to come back in again when something absolutely triggers.

Speaker 1: 3:38

But we have this great habit, don't we, of looking at other people and thinking, oh, they're all right, they've got their shit together. Yeah, it's all right for them, or you know, we do, we do, do it all the time. We do so, do it all the time, especially when people talk about, you know head stuff, don't they? And you know? And I'm sure people must look at us sometimes I think, yeah, but they're not like like you say yeah, so if they're, they know this stuff, it's all right for that, but that's not true, is it? None of us have got our shit together. No, that's the thing.

Speaker 1: 4:12

And it's like when we did the last podcast, you know, and we were talking about the whole me having a meltdown thing, like you say, yeah, doesn't matter how much of this shit, you know, nobody is like that all the time. No, they're not. And it can't be, because things happen and we do as good as we can all be at reacting. It's just sometimes almost like cat, is you off guard, doesn't it? Yeah, and you're reacting in a different way, and sometimes we do have to like give ourselves a bit of talking to, don't we? Oh, gorgeous, it's almost like.

Speaker 1: 4:51

Then you go right, hang on a minute. Why? Yeah, and I do that more these days. I never, ever, used to like question myself, no, but now, honestly, it's so interesting if you start doing that, you suddenly just stop and go right, hang on a minute. Why am I feeling like this or why did I react in that way this time? And if you really sit and talk to yourself, it's, it could be quite profound, to be honest, oh God, I think so so much, like you. You know I have now got into a habit of doing that. Sometimes it might take me a while, yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. I did like I mean a couple of days, yeah, but then I go, all right, come on sort of you shit out. Well, let's work out why we're feeling like this rather than carrying on. But yeah, like you say once that that default is kind of eased off.

Speaker 1: 5:53

And then, because it is okay and I think that's the biggest thing, and I mean Brother Brown's a good one for that, isn't he? Like it is okay, yeah, yeah, to feel these things, yes, but I think, and if we can learn from them, it can then make a whole difference. But but it is okay, it's absolutely okay, and I think when you gain that acceptance, you have that that is like huge, because I think that allows you to have those days. Oh, totally, because you can. You can have those those shit days, but you can still be all right about it and that doesn't make any sense at all in a way. But that's the thing. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? But I it is that the acceptance I think is one of the hardest things to do is to accept that you're allowed to have those days.

Speaker 1: 7:00

Yeah, because often, with the whole positivity thing and remain positive and we know this because we've done loads of stuff is that when you're having a shit day and you think, oh, I've got to be positive, it's almost like you're already out of it. It's hard work being you're trying to ignore what you're feeling. Yeah, well, you're just repressing it. That's it. That feels it goes up the the bucket, the wrong bucket. Done it. So, like you say, you're repressing it, which, like you say, it will emerge in a much worse state at some, given it comes out with a little bit more ferocity, doesn't it? Yeah, you know, I know that's a big posh word for me today. Sorry, I forgot where I was going with that. No, it's fine.

Speaker 1: 8:00

But also you feel crap for having a crap day. You almost beat yourself up. Oh, I'm shit. I'm not feeling posh today. I feel shit. Oh God, that means I am shit because I'm not feeling posh and I have to feel posh all the time, which I think then gets you in another kind of cycle and you just end up going round and round and round. Right, it's ridiculous. You don't have to feel posh all the time.

Speaker 1: 8:23

Oh God, no, feeling posh and understanding yourself or understanding the reasons why you're feeling a bit shit, is totally different. Totally, because with that level of understanding automatically makes you feel better, because you understand why you're feeling like you're feeling. You've not smoothed a bloody positively spread over it, you've gone. Okay, this is why I'm feeling like this. So, okay, now I feel better because now I understand why I'm feeling like that and that makes sense. So then you realise well, okay, and I think then it's almost like where, when you don't look at it with acceptance, you then contend just to sit in it because you almost don't know where to go with it, do you? So you do just sit in it. I'm a bit of a wallow bath, don't I? Oh, yes, oh yeah, you like a bit of that. Everybody loves a bit of a self pity bath. Yeah, have a little bit of a pity party.

Speaker 1: 9:25

But then, if we can understand it, we do like you said. We do just start to feel differently about it. It doesn't have such a big whammy on us, does it? No, and I, for me, I don't think it prolongs the situation. No, and I think almost like you've come out of it then without realising because you've just accepted it.

Speaker 1: 9:49

So, instead of focusing on it and making it freaking huge which is what we do, because then, once we make it huge, we attach every other emotion we can to it, because we start delving in the box of oh, I've done that and I'm rubbish at that, and I know I'm rubbish at that because I did that, and oh, we're so good at that. Oh yeah, just like flipping shit stew, basically, isn't it? We chuck it all in, yeah, then we jump in ourselves and we're like, yay, oh no, it's just horrible, it's just one melting pot of shit all the time. It's madness, isn't it? But when we can accept and just go okay, I'm feeling like this, because it's not a bee anymore. No, it's really not. No, because, like you say, because you understand where it's come from and you accept it, so you don't give it a great huge flag going shit, no, no, okay, okay, I'm over the shit, though. Yeah, we all love shit, though I think that's a big one as well, isn't it Accepting that you're not the only one.

Speaker 1: 11:05

That was huge for me. That's it, isn't it Like you say? It goes back to the whole what we think others, yeah, I like and what we assume we do. People do a lot of assuming yeah, yeah, and when I was like that I really cut myself off because, also, I thought everybody else was okay. So I didn't feel like I could reach out, because what a plonker I felt, yeah, or what a failure I felt and touch all those stitch, all those buttons on your forehead. But that's it, isn't it, like you say? Because you're assuming that everybody else is okay, yeah, but that and I think that comes from that nobody speaks about this stuff. No, they don't.

Speaker 1: 11:55

So your automatic reaction is well, if nobody else is speaking about it, then nobody else is feeling that. No, or nobody else will understand, and nobody else is going through this, which is absolute bollocks. It is bollocks, yeah, it's the biggest load of bollocks. And it's great because when we then go this is how I feel somebody else will go oh, my God, I felt like that, yeah, so you're giving that other person permission to like, talk about it as well. That is huge, yes, so, and I think the trouble is we think, oh, if we've got this shit and we share it, we've given somebody else that shit. You're not. You're actually giving somebody else permission to be okay with their shit too. That's it, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 12:52

Unless you speak to a rescuing reader or we'll take on your shit and try and fix it. Yeah, that's another issue. Good baby, yeah, but rescuing reader is in that beginning stage. Yeah, so that is fine if you're a rescuing reader, but be a rescuing reader and start to understand the rescuing reader, and then you will come out the other side. This is it. She'll still have a little hand in sometimes, but that's absolutely fine, but this is it. But you'll understand her. So then she won't be so prominent. Yeah, so it will get better.

Speaker 1: 13:30

This is it by accepting, yeah, screen readers there and, like you say, are they accepting and listening that everybody else has stuff going on? Yeah, don't fight it. Because I think people fight it, don't they? They know they have these sort of traits, these sides or things, and then they fight it. And I did that originally because when we did that whole learning about the different roles that we sit in and they were like well, I don't like that, so I don't want that to be there. Actually, they need to be there to a certain extent, but we just have to understand why they're there and when to let them out of the books. And for me, I just want to stick the red out. I mean, I've forgotten me. I've forgotten. Shut up, not today. Nobody's going out to play today. It is what's I going to say? See, oh, brain fart. Today.

Speaker 1: 14:39

It is the personities that I think you probably dislike most. Yeah, that were probably the most helpful. Yeah, and I struggled with that. I struggled with liking them. Oh God, yes, because I, yeah, I wanted, I didn't want them there, no, didn't like them. No, but actually, like you say, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1: 15:06

So you have to just embrace them, accept them, accept them and again, accepting those parts of you that you don't like. Oh, absolutely, because we all have parts of us, whether that's a personality or things that we do or things that we go over. Anyway, there's all parts of it that we try and ignore and pretend it's not there. Yeah, and that doesn't work and it doesn't work, and I think often they're quite prominent but, like you say, we pretend they're not there, aren't they? So we don't want to accept that those parts of us are there? No, not at all. No, we don't like accepting, do we? No? And I, it's quite a big word, except it is. It's huge actually, isn't it? Except it's a mystery. I think acceptance incorporates loads of things, I think, and I think that's why people struggle with it, in that fact that it accepts.

Speaker 1: 16:14

Acceptance is things like your part in a situation, taking responsibility, taking responsibility yeah, that's it. So you have to accept that part of you, have to accept that part of you was responsible. Yeah, we don't know, not intentionally all the time, but part of you was responsible for that. And that also is such a big conditioning thing, oh God, because we see it all the time, don't we on the news, on the telly, like or somebody else has to be responsible for that. People did sorry, but I just got excited. No, but it's true. But again, that, again, isn't it that we don't do that? So we don't accept nobody. Like you say, we're not conditioned to take responsibility. Not at all, definitely not.

Speaker 1: 17:04

And also, accepting that we had a part in something yeah, that's a bit huge Is a really huge thing, because you have to look at yourself in the mirror and nobody wants to do that. It's hard to do that. It's really hard. It is hard to look at you and go okay, there's part of me I have to accept in a situation that took responsibility for that. So for me, I think that's why it's so hard, because it covers so much.

Speaker 1: 17:35

But when we look at it like that, taking responsibility it's not always a negative thing. No, that I think we always look at it that when we take responsibility it has a negative impact on us. No, but it doesn't. It's the opposite. Yeah, absolutely the opposite. It's quite a freeing thing. Yeah, hard to do it. Yeah, hard to look at it. Yeah, sometimes hard to work out what your part of your responsibility was in that. Yeah, well, because we attach all other things when we're looking for that responsibility, don't we? That's the thing. Yeah, we've got a bit attaching, but when you accept it, you're like okay Again, it's, yeah, quite a freeing thing. See, that's another song.

Speaker 1: 18:30

I do sort of almost like we've almost got a bit flippant about the whole and a bit cheesy about the whole. Lady it go. But do you know what's such a big thing? The acceptance is about doing that, isn't it? Because when we accept, you do, let it go, you can, but I for me and I don't know whether this is right and you might challenge me on this Go for it, we like these, but you need to work out and let it go. Oh, yes, not just like go I'm letting that go, no, absolutely. Yeah, I'm with you on that, because in my head, just going I'm letting it go means just shoving it down somewhere. Yeah, trying to protect it. No, no, no, no, yeah, 100% with you.

Speaker 1: 19:19

No, you have to look at it, face it, take responsibility for it. But once you've done that, yes, then it's like you've said a better word. You free yourself from it. Yes, which then is Because you're not attaching anything else to it. Yeah, you're looking at it almost from an outside perspective, and I think that's what a lot of people I don't want to say get wrong, because it's not the right words, but they think that they can just take something and let it go, like you say. And you can't, because if you don't delve into it and face it, you'll never let it go. No, because it will always come back and smack you on the head. Yeah, always, yeah.

Speaker 1: 20:16

So, yeah, the acceptance part is the looking at it, however hard that is, but that's, I think, out of everything that we say and do, acceptance is the hardest part, because you have to take a long, hard look at yourself. And nobody wants to do that. No, it's funny. No, and even you know, people struggle with like sensitivity, don't they? And people don't want to look at that and things like that. And it's like look at it because, don't look at it as a weakness. No, sensitivity is like such a great strength, even things on those lines. People, we've been conditioned not to look at that because it's we've been conditioned to think that's a bad trait that way. But except that you've got that part, that wonderful part of you that makes you who you are, and all these little pieces right, we're like this little jigsaw, aren't we? But again, there is no.

Speaker 1: 21:24

I think society nowadays and I could be wrong, and this could be old age catching up with me no, I'm going to retract that. No, I've said that. Well, I didn't actually say it, my head was going with nobody accepts people for who they are. That's bullshit. I'm calling myself out bullshit. Yeah, that's a very big statement, because you can't say no one does, no people do. But that's the thing, because I started to think that and I was just like no, that's crap. Then you're talking out your arse Because it's not, is it? No, because I think of people, and I think of young people that I know, we know, who are very accepting of people in general. Yeah, I'd accept people for who they are, no matter what shape, just anything but people for who they are. And I think there are a lot of people out there that do do that.

Speaker 1: 22:32

But I'm going to go out on a political limb and say media, do not do that. No, but then that's the problem with that is there's a game for them, isn't there, for not doing that. There's a big Because, unfortunately, like the default is to look on the negative, the bad side of things, which sell stories, unfortunately, and I think that's a big lesson we all have to think about and look at ourselves for, so as we can go down a whole road, then a whole rabbit hole of Jesus, judgmental and accepting, very opinionated, but that's kind of what they're trying to foster, yeah, yeah, and I think they foster a culture that is wrong. I have, I have gone, makes me a little bit cross Cross media. Yeah, I could happily get on my soapbox, to be honest. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1: 23:53

If you've ever watched. Do you ever have you seen any like Russell Howard clips? No See, I like Russell Howard, so he does. I never watch a whole show, but I just end up watching little clips on YouTube and stuff like that or on Facebook videos and stuff. And he does a massive rant and I love it when he does a rant because it's really good A massive rant about the whole media and what they're doing and like, say, creating this clickbait thing.

Speaker 1: 24:24

Do you know what I mean? And you know coming up with a random things about. You know everybody's doing this or everybody's doing that, but then he breaks it down and goes actually, that was one person that did that. That's not all. You know this whole where they all slating off woke culture. So which of the youngsters? Basically, you know why do we? Every fucking generation slates off the youngsters. Yeah, every generation. But yeah, so the whole woke thing. And then in the woke culture, it's just all bullshit.

Speaker 1: 24:58

All of it is just the media has to take huge responsibility for what they put out there and what they condition people to believe, the language they use, which is extremely manipulative and misleading. It's amazing what you can. Well, we all know, don't we? With words, yeah, how you can change stories that aren't really the truth. You know, we do all that. We do enough of that to ourselves. That's it. You don't need that Without having a whole media culture out there. That does it.

Speaker 1: 25:38

And, yeah, I have a strong thing that it needs to be stopped and, like you said, they're reinforcing that. They're reinforcing not accepting other people for who they are and that affects lives and it does, yeah, huge. And, like you say, it needs to be like it's not right. You know, people are not teaching people to accept people for who they are or the way they are, or teaching people to accept themselves. Why is that not taught in schools? Why do you need to teach the fucking algebra rather than acceptance? Because a flying shit about x plus y equals z.

Speaker 1: 26:21

If you could teach acceptance, self-worth, these kids would go out and do far more in their life than what they'll get from five, six, was it? Numbers now on a piece of paper? I know, yeah, what does that actually mean? Part of it's lovely for that, isn't it? I saw a post on LinkedIn not very long ago and he said he had a vacancy. He said I'm not interested in your qualifications, I want to know who you are and what you have to offer as a person, and that's what we should be doing.

Speaker 1: 27:03

If you build kids self-worth, that they value themselves and their abilities, then they will find those abilities that they're good at, because we're all good at stuff. We're all shit stuff. Yeah, there's nobody that's good at everything. We all have different things that we're good at and not good at. So let them build on what, for them, they're great at and they accept people for who they are. Yes, yeah, that's what we do.

Speaker 1: 27:35

The difference is we need to accept people's differences and teach kids to accept. Actually, do you know what I mean? They don't want me to teach kids. I think we need to teach fucking adults that, yeah, get them to accept people's differences, get them to accept, and just get them to accept themselves. It's just shy, but then don't you think it's the people that don't want to accept themselves, the people that don't accept other people that don't accept themselves, because everything that we the way we look out at the world, is how we're looking in at ourselves it all comes from within. Oh God, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1: 28:15

So it's not just kids, it is everybody, and those ones that have the big opinions about it are the ones that have real inner conflicts with themselves and then they project it to other people, rather than take responsibility for how they're feeling about themselves. They project that. I mean, there's a bully, isn't it? That's it, isn't it, you know. But like you say, isn't it? Even with those people, nobody is looking at those people and thinking, okay, what the fuck is going on with them, that they need to behave like that. Now they get judged too. That's it, isn't it? So that again, there's no acceptance that for me, there's no thinking right, okay, so if that person's behaving like that, why are they behaving like that? That's not that if you gave them a choice, they wouldn't want to behave like that. They're doing that because they have no other choice. They don't know where to go with that. They don't know to go with those feelings that they're feeling inside, and they would feel uncomfortable to then go. Hang on a minute, I just feel shit about myself. Yeah, they're not going to, so they've got to cover it up. They've got to repress that all day. They've got to cover that up.

Speaker 1: 29:38

It's like a never-ending story, but it is, isn't it? It is literally a never-ending story, but I think we need to put it to a story that can be changed. Yeah, definitely, we're living proof of that. It can be done, yeah, and I think it can be done at any age, whether you're five or 50 or 105. But that's why we need to build the groups, the support that we can support each other and we can understand each other and to know that we're all okay. We're all different, okay, and we can accept that and we're all okay in all different ways and we accept ourselves for being who we are. Yeah, whatever that looks like physically, mentally and emotionally, absolutely. And we can learn things from each and every person. Oh God, we really can when we just accept, rather than Because the minute we judge, we cut that off, and that's really sad. Yeah, because everybody has a story that we can learn from everybody.

Speaker 1: 30:47

Oh, yeah, it's like when I listen to old people. I love talking to old people. Yeah, because people naturally assume not naturally assume that they've always been old. Well, they've not. They've been young. Do you know what I mean? And actually listening to some of their stories is fascinating and they'll have you in stitches and stuff like that. It's just, you know, it's amazing.

Speaker 1: 31:16

Just learn from people. Don't knock them down, don't put them on a pedestal and then say I'm going to knock them off. That what's good about that? Because that's what the media does? Yeah, it does. It's good about that? Absolutely nothing, nothing at all. No, nothing at all. All your batteries are in there, but there isn't, is there? There is absolutely nothing at all about it. No, no, there's nothing nice about it. Just accept people.

Speaker 1: 31:46

But I think we do default to it, because that's what we've seen our whole lives, and especially for the media. The media is so strong and prominent in our lives. Yeah, definitely, and I think, like you say, you know it doesn't help, does it? I think you know we were fortunate in our day. That you know, it was three telly channels and a newspaper. Yeah, you know, yeah, and now I am sounding like an old twat, no, to be so sure. Well, that's true, especially if you know where Dodgy's f**king it this morning.

Speaker 1: 32:23

But yeah, that you were exposed to the amount of media and stuff, no, and I think that's you get that, don't you? With older people ago, or something like it in mind? It was, it's just that You've never heard about it. You didn't have like the media that flew around the world telling you what was going on. You just had one newspaper, that's it, and if they didn't choose to print it, you ain't going to know about it, are you? Oh, these people getting murdered? Look at the Victorian times. Oh my God, walk out on the street. They'd slit your throat, but that's it. Have your head off. Whatever it's like, it's always happened.

Speaker 1: 33:03

Yes, because, as you just didn't know about it, we didn't go there. My mother and my father-in-law having a conversation, yeah, and him saying that wasn't like that, and my, my mum was that's not true, frank. It was like that in your day. In fact, it was probably worse in your day, but nowadays we talk about it and people know about it, whereas in your day nobody said anything. No, so true, but it is true, isn't it? Yeah, so in some parts you know part of it. Where we're talking about it is grey and not showing everything under the very piled-hard carpet, yeah, but also, like you say, that whole thing can be used for game in another way by unscrupulous people. It's a funny old world, oh God, isn't it just?

Speaker 1: 34:01

Oh, our cars, I feel like those ladies open left doors and now we are talking about them. So if you were listening to this in 20,. You'll know I'm another fucking clue who we're talking about. I feel like those old ladies. I feel like they should have the armors in the endrapper and I should have the arms underneath the tits. You've got your card on today. I've got my card on the arms underneath the tits. Look, oh, mabel, you'll never guess what will happen to you. Oh, it's brilliant, isn't it? I don't think you'd probably get away with that these days either.

Speaker 1: 34:41

There's a lot you couldn't get away with these days that they did to us, sort of children Like magic roundabout. Oh, there's a whole list of them, isn't there? Cutting pugwash at the watchers' breast. Who, in their right mind, let that go out as a kids' programme? I don't know how they did this though. Oh, that's epic. I don't know how they let them get away with that.

Speaker 1: 35:14

Kids were kids in their days. Look what that we were all going to talk about cutting pugwash and seeing when it stings. You didn't think of that when you were a kid in those days, did you? God, I think you've got to be on something to do children's programmes. Oh yeah, definitely, because even when my kids were, you had, like, the teddy tubs. Who came up with the teddy tubs? Well, talking about what was the programme Rainbow? Honestly, if you've not seen Cliff the Rainbow, come on YouTube that it's freaking brilliant. George and Zippy and Bungal that's my name Ah, that's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Just what we subjected to as kids. I don't know, that was a continder conditioning. We were left with Shites like that.

Speaker 1: 36:28

Oh dear, I've got to remember somebody saying there's a programme called In the Night Garden with inky pinky. Oh yeah, maca-paca. Oh, what are they called? I don't know, never watched it. Oh, there's these little things that march around. Oh, what are they called? The word I love it, I love it. Do you know what they're called? It's a come up in the kids programme. Seriously, there's got to be something. Oh yeah, because, like the teddy toys didn't speak, did they? No, boo, yeah, nunu, nunu custard, cubby custard, cubby custard, brilliant.

Speaker 1: 37:21

No wonder you stopped watching the telly, is it any wonder? Honestly, if you want to laugh, come watch the show. You need to go by the programme 17 kids programme. It's bloody brilliant. And then you'll understand why everybody over 50 is like they are Brilliant, and it will give you a whole load of acceptance and understanding as to why old people like us are like we are, because that's the shit we so subjected to as children.

Speaker 1: 37:57

Oh, it's money. Oh, you forget, don't you? Weird, yeah, and you're handy. Finger mouse, finger, bob, finger, pups. That wasn't right, eva. Even the herbs were there. I used to love the herbs.

Speaker 1: 38:22

He was on something like that. Oh, my God, you stop laughing. You're hurting me now. Right, okay, this is fucking confession time. Oh, no, do you know what the weirdest thing is? Sometimes? You're like, you know, you're like. Do you know what the weirdest thing is Sometimes when I can't sleep? Okay, yeah, I say a phrase that helps you go to sleep. Do you know what that phrase is? I have no idea at this stage and I'm sure you're going to tell us I go boing time for bedhead somebody. I'm like, okay, and for those of you who don't know that, that's magic roundabout. That is the end of magic roundabout. He said boing time for bedhead somebody, because somebody was a spring with a face and he used to spring round. That was the end of magic roundabout. Boing time for bedhead somebody. No, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Oh, dear, okay, and on that note, I think we're boing away. I think we better boing Time for bedhead somebody. Cheers, bro, Bye.