Laugh, Learn and Hibernate: A Whimsical Walk through Life and Nature

Do you remember the pure joy of dancing in the rain or the captivating power of a rhythmic drum beat? Come, make yourself comfortable, and let's relish the nostalgic memories of music, from my dad's jazz band to our shared longing to master the drums. We'll also pay tribute to the legendary Bonnie Tyler and share a good laugh about how chips can miraculously solve just about everything. 

Do you ever wonder about our cave-dwelling ancestors and their ability to hibernate? Let's dive deep into the fascinating concept of hibernation, from how they used to store and preserve food through salting and freezing, to pondering the curious classification of whales. We'll also explore the potential of human hibernation, especially in relation to seasonal changes. 

Lastly, ever thought about how being kind to others and listening to your body can change your life? We'll enlighten you about creating a healthy lifestyle that includes understanding the importance of physical activities like walking and dancing. We'll guide you on how to listen to your body's signals and the power of nature. Get ready for an intriguing talk about self-care and the possibility of reincarnation, leaving you with food for thought. Tune in and let's embark on this remarkable journey together.

Chapters

• 0:44 Musical Skills and Enjoying Rainy Days
• 5:48 Hibernation and Classification of Whales
• 10:17 Seasonal Changes and Hibernation in Humans
• 26:03 Listen to Your Body's Importance
• 36:24 Self-Care and Nature's Power

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:44

That's a good start, as usual.

Speaker 2: 0:49

I don't like it with the stand. I do because I can hold it like that.

Speaker 1: 0:55

I just find that more awkward. I kind of like it, just like this, like I'm Bonnie Tyler on a stage or something. You go with that vision, that's absolutely fine. I don't think my Welsh accent works enough to become Bonnie Tyler or my vocal range. I'm thinking what? Welsh accent my vocal range doesn't run that far either. No, that's a bit of an epic one, isn't it? Yeah, she has got a cracking voice.

Speaker 2: 1:28

Absolutely I'd love to be able to sing. I would as well. I can't sing for Toffee. No, I can't play music either for Toffee, which is a bit disappointing.

Speaker 1: 1:42

Have you ever tried?

Speaker 2: 1:45

Yes, what did you try? I used to try and play the piano because my dad wouldn't teach me. He was a keyboard player in a jazz band.

Speaker 1: 1:55

Did you skip the jazz?

Speaker 2: 1:56

music. No, don't always play the music. That's a good bit, just skip to you. I did learn to play white Christmas once on the piano. I know we're going to home because obviously dad played, but no, he'd never teach me. So I did teach myself a little bit, but only because I had it written there. I just don't really read music or anything.

Speaker 1: 2:22

It's a hard thing to read music. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2: 2:26

Yeah. So now, maybe I should, I think you should, I think you should. I'd quite like to play the drums. I could get some lessons. I think you should do that. Ok, I'll ask, nicely, if I can get some lessons. Sure, she'll teach me. Well, she might say yes until I'm useless, although she might not.

Speaker 1: 2:52

She'll tell you to get off and I'm going to do one. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 3:00

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:01

I'd quite like to really. I think it's good, I think it is.

Speaker 2: 3:08

Can you play?

Speaker 1: 3:09

I used to be able to play the guitar you do. Yeah, I never knew that. Yeah, a little while back, yeah, I'm talking donkey's ears. No, probably not. What could you play? I don't remember with a guitar. I remember the things I used to play on the recorder so I could play Gooky Mitesless.

Speaker 2: 3:33

And I'm not saying I'd like to hear it.

Speaker 1: 3:36

I used to have one of those treble recorders as well. You're cheating. Yeah, they're big ones. Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2: 3:41

Poshlin.

Speaker 1: 3:44

Seriously, I've had Poshlin for like the past week Suddenly turned into Poshlin. Why did that start? Because we were out last week and you said my car was Posh and then it just didn't stop about Poshlin, our car is Posh.

Speaker 2: 4:02

Our car is Posh. Don't listen to her.

Speaker 1: 4:05

So then it all started about Poshlin then.

Speaker 2: 4:09

We had a jolly episode today. We had a good day. It was tough, we loved it. We went to the beach.

Speaker 1: 4:14

It was reddened.

Speaker 2: 4:16

But it doesn't matter, does it? No, we had chips. It was in marital, no it didn't matter.

Speaker 1: 4:20

Everything's solved with chips. Absolutely honest. It solves everything in life, yeah, but it's nice, see, I like it. I like being in autumn and sitting in a car when it's piddling down the rain and you can see outside I love it, and we've done that today, haven't we?

Speaker 2: 4:37

Yes, we had a work day and we were going to have a break and go for a walk and, as we decided, we'd go for a walk. It absolutely pissed that, but it pissed Hellstone, yes, it did, so we sat watching it out the window.

Speaker 1: 4:52

Oh, a little bit.

Speaker 2: 4:53

And it's just like the noise in it. It's just amazing. The weather is amazing, but it just wants you to like just what makes you want to just curl up under a blanket See, I could do that.

Speaker 1: 5:06

Yeah, I could curl up under a blanket with a fire and either just watch the fire or just listen to the weather outside.

Speaker 2: 5:18

Something nice about it isn't there.

Speaker 1: 5:21

I find it really comforting. That's a bit weird, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 5:24

No, that's not weird at all. I love it. I think it's amazing Just if you switch everything off and you're as long as you're like all nice and warm and cozy and just listen to like the rain beating or the wind I love. I find the winds really scary, but I love listening to it. I love listening to it. It's just amazing. Do you think that takes us back to our roots in a sense? Because, like we must? Well, not the only animal, but there are a lot of animals that hibernate away, aren't there? Oh yeah, so do you think there's something? Do you think once we sort of did that, maybe in caves, maybe a bit? Did they have to because of the weather?

Speaker 1: 6:08

I was going to say, to be honest, if they were living in this country in the middle of winter, you're not gonna. Well, you would be outside, but you would have to be more inside?

Speaker 2: 6:24

Yeah, and also, do you think they did like store our food? Yeah, they did, weren't they? Because there wouldn't be so much about to grind and kill. That's because that's things like where saltine came from.

Speaker 1: 6:38

Yes, because it used to dry it out and it then you would put it in stews and stuff like that, so then it would re-moisten then.

Speaker 2: 6:48

And the like, the I don't know what you call them, the people that used to live in in oh, eskimos and things. I was gonna call them igloo people. They used to bring the fish in and chop it and then freeze it in their own little obviously not in a plug-in freezer. They used to put your average chest squeeze in there, but they used to do that in bulk. It catched like almost like a whale-sized fish, wouldn't they? It's a fish of whales, a whale's a mammal.

Speaker 2: 7:35

She can't call it a fish, but it is a fish, no yeah it's not a fish A whale's a whale. Yeah, it can't call it a fish, but it is a fish. But it's not a fish, it's a mammal.

Speaker 1: 7:52

It is a fish, but it's not a fish. So I can't call it a fish, but it is a fish. Why is it a fish? Because it's swimming in the sea, so it's a fish. Well, that flipping logic, octopuses would be a fish. They swim in the freaking sea.

Speaker 2: 8:07

How do you call them? That's called an octopus. Maybe I wouldn't. Yeah, I've never called an octopus something.

Speaker 1: 8:19

An octopus is an octopus, isn't it? I have, no, I don't know what category of species it is, where and how do I? No, but another faintest idea Do you call a shrimp a fish? No, that's seafood. That's a crustacean. A shrimp is a crustacean.

Speaker 2: 8:39

That's getting confusing. It's a fish, aren't they? Just if they live in the sea, water, they swim.

Speaker 1: 8:47

That's like saying that everything that lives on the earth is a mammal.

Speaker 2: 8:51

Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, a whale is still going to be a fish, though it's just a big fish. It's a fucking huge fish.

Speaker 1: 9:15

Yeah, it looks like a fish, the whales and mammals, aren't they? It doesn't look like a fish. Does your fish look like a whale? It?

Speaker 2: 9:24

does. It's long, it's got a tail, it's got fins, it's got little old spirit water.

Speaker 1: 9:31

That's a fish. It's got a little holes. They spurt water out of.

Speaker 2: 9:35

I wonder if they've got little holes. They brew that off. On my side it looks like a fish. It's just a big fish. Oh my god, we've never had a conversation about fish before. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 9:54

I don't know why we're in a fucking goldfish to find now.

Speaker 2: 9:59

Anyway, if I was a caveman let's go back I would hibernate.

Speaker 1: 10:05

I think hibernation is a good thing. I do too. That's why I want to be a bear. I reckon I was a bear in a previous life, yeah, yeah, because I like. Hibernating Bears are really cool, right. So during hibernation, bears give birth to their cubs. What they're not awake, no, they give birth to them during the hibernation, and then the baby bears suckle on them, and then, when they come out of hibernation, Well, that's a bit freaking clever, that isn't it.

Speaker 2: 10:36

It's amazing, isn't it? Give birth and you're not aware? Yeah, you have cubs in your not aware. You just let them get on with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:45

And then you come out of hibernation, you find a tree and you spend 10 minutes scratching your back up it like balloon. That's why I want to be a bear and I could probably eat as much as I like and nobody gives a shit. And I would accept myself for just being the size I am, or being a big old brown bear.

Speaker 2: 11:12

That's true, good thinking. Nobody would give a flying fuck if I was a size 10 or I think that they did that. Yeah, I think that's amazing, it's so cool. I think that's pretty cool, that's pretty clever actually. So there you go, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1: 11:28

That's good thinking, matt. I think that's amazing thinking. I think, as humans, we need to evolve to do that.

Speaker 2: 11:35

I think. But do you think once we maybe we did a little bit, we sat in our cave for a few months, and I think so Just stocked up on.

Speaker 1: 11:44

So I think you get to that point. Then, don't you that you would stock up on food? Because if you think about it and I don't know if this is just me, it probably is but if you think about, do you eat certain things in the summer and certain things in the winter? Yeah, like you wouldn't eat stew when it's like 35 degrees outside, would you no? Whereas stew during the summer, during the winter, it's like really warming and it fills you up.

Speaker 2: 12:16

But also, if you were a caveman and it's like three feet of snow outside or the ground is hard, you wouldn't be out there digging carrots would you, no, no, they probably didn't have carrot seeds anymore, so you wouldn't.

Speaker 1: 12:32

You'd have to make a stew. Yeah, that's it. So you would make it for the meat that you'd hunted during the winter, during the summer, and you'd obviously be hydrating.

Speaker 2: 12:44

They had not ropes.

Speaker 1: 12:50

They might well have done. I could have given them a really good recipe. Give it if you're a squirrel. Do I have to do anything else with their nuts squirrels? Okay, I said do you think they do anything else with their nuts squirrels, do you think? Or they just eat them as they are, they just eat them, I suppose.

Speaker 1: 13:11

We don't think a word like a nice nut roast? Yeah, probably not. But they do that. They don't hibernate, but they store things in the winter. Yeah, they do. They're sensible, so we do the same. We store stuff for the winter. I'm sure evolutionally we must store fat during the winter, naturally, because obviously you're going into colder times.

Speaker 2: 13:37

Do you think that that's why in Covid everybody went out and boiled toilet rolls and like pasta, and that because that comes back to being that's something that people automatically want to do? Do you think they've?

Speaker 1: 13:55

smacked all my stuff to safety. Do you think they're winner of both pots?

Speaker 2: 14:01

I never thought we have our inbred thing to store and they would have done if they had a same spray. So would they?

Speaker 1: 14:12

Right now in my head I've got fish and I'm picking up leaves and storing them in piles to use as butt wipes.

Speaker 2: 14:19

You never know. It came from Toilet roll. Evolved from something, didn't it? You have to use something.

Speaker 1: 14:28

So I guess it may be. Then that's it. Ah, yeah, they may be genius. They're making it really just you. I'll take that, like you say, during the summer nice green, fresh leaves, because when they drop off the trees during autumn and winter they get a bit of soggy and mushy. They're not good to wipe your bum with, are they no? So nice fresh, green leaves. They take them off and store them plenty to wipe your bum with during the winter they are say but that habit that we form of doing that because it's a program, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 15:06

Why did then, suddenly, when we think we're being like locked down which is a bit like what the animals do in hibernation that we automatically default to right and we've got to stock up? So it's got to be an inbred thing, hasn't it?

Speaker 1: 15:22

Actually it has, hasn't it. It's got to be an evolutionary thing that that's in built in us, like you say, to do that For times of scarcity, yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:35

And a lot of people these days suffer from like sad syndrome, quite sad syndrome.

Speaker 1: 15:40

Yeah, seasonal affective disorder.

Speaker 2: 15:42

Yeah Well, do you think that's because we've evolved to push through and not listen to our bodies and keep pushing so that we don't do those hibernation things, so we don't then sit a bit like a relax and recharge, isn't it hibernation? Yes, you can't sort of do much and you do tend to slow down. I think you do. I don't think you do. We get a lot more lazy, and there's nothing bad with the word lazy it's okay to be lazy, but we do behave differently in the winter months than we do in the summer months. Totally, we tend to sort of have less energy. But maybe we should listen to that. Is that our bodies telling us really we should be preparing for hibernation and we should be doing those things? So we should be putting our feet up in front of the fire a bit and just snuggling in for longer hours than we would do?

Speaker 1: 16:42

I think totally, because if you think our bodies run on a circadian rhythm and our circadian rhythm I can't remember, spell it off for me but if you think our circadian rhythms are based around daylight hours and darkness, so naturally, obviously, because the evenings draw in darker sooner, we naturally start to wind down earlier in the day. If you think, during the summer we're all rushing around till eight, nine o'clock because it's still light outside and we think plenty of times do stuff. But I know on a personal level, by six, seven o'clock I'm done. You just want to shut the door. Shut the door all day, close the curtains, snuggle up.

Speaker 2: 17:34

It is a natural instinct, but we beat ourselves up a little bit for that, I think, don't we? Oh God? We don't beat ourselves up from running around in the summer till 10, 11 and 12 o'clock at night do we no, but we do beat ourselves up in the winter for getting lazy. Yes, we should maybe reword it, because it's just about. It's about recharging.

Speaker 1: 17:58

And it is just going with the flirt, isn't it? And with that seasonal aspect and what those seasonal aspects have on us.

Speaker 2: 18:08

Because when we change seasons, your body does change as well, because you notice a whole difference in how your hair grows, your nails grow, all those sorts of things.

Speaker 1: 18:20

So does that naturally slow down during the winter? Then yeah, so again, that is it. It's something that we are not in control of.

Speaker 2: 18:30

No, we should notice it more and we should take it on board that we should slow down during the winter and re-gather, re-cooper, re-coop re-charge?

Speaker 1: 18:44

Yeah, because, like you say, it's our natural state of being If we listen to what it is our bodies are telling us. But, like you say, we're programme not to. No, we don't. But yeah, so is that natural flow of things.

Speaker 2: 19:02

Yeah, and we should be okay with that.

Speaker 1: 19:06

Oh God, yeah, but people like you say people aren't, are they?

Speaker 2: 19:09

No, they're not okay with not doing something, they're not okay with spending, you know, and keeping your energies up, which I get to a certain extent, but also allowing and accepting that our energies are lower during the winter times. But that is okay, yeah. So what we should be doing is adapting to that and not pushing ourselves through. We should allow that slow down.

Speaker 1: 19:39

But that's it. But the rest of the world doesn't does it. No, it carries on the same way 365 days of the year. It doesn't incorporate that ebb and flow of the season. I suppose that's because a lot of places don't even have seasons, do they?

Speaker 2: 19:57

No. That's kind of tends to be a bit more of a, but we all accept in different countries that animals do that.

Speaker 1: 20:03

Well, yes, like you say no way, because it's not just this country? No, it's not. Just you know you're tortoises that hibernate when you put them in a box, is it? But that's interesting because tortoises don't hibernate unless you put them in there. If you keep them warm, they don't need to hibernate.

Speaker 2: 20:27

Well, maybe that's why we don't hibernate as much, because we have unnaturally warm houses. But maybe if it was bloody cold, shut the door and go sod off.

Speaker 1: 20:41

But also you would, wouldn't you? I think that you would. You would naturally go to sleep earlier and be awake earlier, because you haven't got anything artificial doing that, have you?

Speaker 2: 20:58

You're guided by the light within the day, which is probably what they did years ago because, like you said, they were guided by the light. So, once it started going, you went to bed and you slept until daylight comes.

Speaker 1: 21:11

Yes, so that's your way of working that out, isn't it Interesting? It is. That's a bit like deeper meaning for us. But I just think, yeah, I think we need to. I think we just need to make that connection with our bodies a lot more. Absolutely, we do I don't think it's something that it's certainly not something we're taught. It's certainly something children aren't taught or, you know, even as adults we don't know.

Speaker 2: 21:45

No and I, yeah, definitely we all should. I think things would be a lot easier for us mentally and physically if we did yes, and we would know ourselves better. Yes, we don't take the time to get to know ourselves anymore. No, and how we tick. No, what we need and what we don't need. We just tend to push through everything.

Speaker 1: 22:11

We don't ask questions of ourselves whether that works for us or not works for us, you know, does that suit? Us as a person or not.

Speaker 2: 22:23

No, we only listen when, physically, things kick ass, yeah, and begin not to work or don't work or things go wrong. Where's that? Because? Is it? I think is it the Chinese or the Japanese, not sure who actually go to the doctor to keep well, yes, rather than go to the doctor when they're ill?

Speaker 1: 22:44

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:44

So they go to the doctor to keep well, so that they avoid being ill? Yeah, so sensible.

Speaker 1: 22:50

Yeah, a lot of the Eastern philosophies are very much based and they're also very much based on still having that natural form of healing rather than it all being chemically based on they. And again, a lot of their, a lot of their philosophies are based around listening to themselves.

Speaker 1: 23:17

Yeah, gentle movement, all that kind of thing, yeah, and again, mind-body connection, that mind-body connection and that connection as a community, yeah, so in Okinawa, which is in Japan, I think that's one of the like the blue zones. The blue zones are where people live the longest in the world and Okinawa is one of them. Why? So there's certain. So if you look, if you look at the word blue zones, there's certain zones in the world where people so they have the oldest population and that it's usually based on things like their diet, their lifestyle and things like that. But they have found a lot of it is down to community and that they all live in a certain community and that whole connection in the fact that they, you know that they have a gentle movement every day, they eat fresh food every day, all that kind of thing, and it's all those.

Speaker 2: 24:29

Actually, that reminds me when, I think, did we go to Dr David Hamilton talk and he was talking there's a community I can't remember where it was in the world I think it was a little island or something and nobody has ever had a heart attack. Do you remember that, god? I don't remember that. So nobody has ever had a heart attack. So they did some research on it and they came down to the fact that they all live as a community, so there's no money exchange. They exchange job for job, right, Okay, so they all look after each other in that way and nobody within that community has ever had heart disease.

Speaker 2: 25:10

That's interesting and that's so. They're living their life through kindness, yeah, and kindness has a real mind-body connection, so that if you act with kindness and you mean it, it makes the heart behave in a different way and it keeps all the valves clear and all that sort of thing. And they do that because they're living as a community, so they're just all helping each other. They might say there's no money exchange, it's just all of you do that for me and I'll do that for you, and that's how they live. I can't remember where it was.

Speaker 1: 25:45

I wonder if that was Japan or Kanoa I don't think it was.

Speaker 2: 25:51

It's somewhere else. I'm sure it was somewhere else. I'm sure it was like sort of Island or something, I don't know. It was the same talk. He was talking about melons, and what a good thing melons were.

Speaker 1: 26:10

I missed this one, did you? Oh, actually, now you say about watermelons, that rings a bell, yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:16

Watermelons are good for you. Yeah, but yeah, it always stuck in my mind that this whole little drive that's how they live and that's the research they did and that's what they came up with. The only fact that that could be the only fact on why there's no heart disease within that is because they live within a community. So it's all built on looking after each other and kindness towards each other.

Speaker 1: 26:45

So it's amazing, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 26:47

Because he's very big, isn't he? On that whole, what kindness physically does to the body. But you have to do it as if you mean it or think it as if you mean it. It's no good, just. Hmm, I'll be kind because I have to.

Speaker 1: 27:01

That doesn't work. Yeah, like you say, you need to bring that from your heart, not from.

Speaker 2: 27:05

Yeah, and it has because you think you should Huge implications on how your heart then works.

Speaker 1: 27:11

Yeah, it's amazing, it fascinates me. So, like you say, on the flip side, for me, for that is it's not always, is it? It's not always about what you eat or what shape your body is or anything like that, is it, it's how you live your life, and I mean that as in like emotionally and mentally, and Well, it's like we all say, in a sense, it's the whole package, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 27:43

It is so you put a bit of all that together and then you have that whole package, because if you think of that community, what they are probably eating, they're all growing it, sharing it. So it's all fresh food, seasonal food, there's no chemicals on it.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:01

So it's all that whole package.

Speaker 1: 28:03

This is it, isn't it? They probably share meals together. There's a big thing about you sharing as a meal together. Yeah, as a community. Like you say, they probably, and because of that, they probably eat that. So, yeah, there is just, but it is that.

Speaker 2: 28:16

And they're obviously farming, so the physical side they're getting there. Yeah, they're not at the gym. They're not having to go to the gym because they're physically doing things during their day. Yeah, because it doesn't have to be necessarily about pushing yourself in a gym. It can be just you go for a good walk every day, or if you're doing something like that, you're getting that physical element in as well, aren't you? So then it all comes together.

Speaker 1: 28:44

That's the thing, isn't it? It doesn't have to be. I have to go to the gym and do that. It doesn't none of it. It is to creating this lifestyle where you're listening to what works for your body and your mind.

Speaker 2: 28:59

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 29:00

Because I think some people are not built for the gym. Some people are not built for I'm certainly never been built for running, do you know what I mean. But I love doing yoga, I love going for a walk. You know, we dance every week.

Speaker 2: 29:16

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 29:17

You know I dance twice a week. Yeah, that's what I love doing. It's movement, it's exercise, but it's stuff I love doing and stuff that works for me.

Speaker 2: 29:25

Yeah, it doesn't happen, and that's it with everything, isn't it? You find that balance, and I know we obviously live in a whole different environment than somebody lives on Ireland and there's. You know, they don't have to kind of work and all that sort of thing, but we can bring it in, and I think the biggest thing is all we just need to listen to ourselves and listen to our bodies and be okay when they want to slow down. That's it, though, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 29:52

And we say what works for you?

Speaker 2: 29:54

What works for you and your body and your emotional state, but you have to listen to it, not just think that that's what's good for it or not good for it, because we are programmed to that we should be out there doing something, whereas there are times of the year, and even, if women, times of the month, when your body is going. I need to relax, yes, and we don't relax. Relaxing and recharging is a huge part of what we need mentally and physically. Yeah, and we don't listen to that enough. No, and it's not being lazy? It's not, it's a silly word that has jumped in there and if you don't do anything, you're lazy. But there are times when you just need to relax and recharge.

Speaker 1: 30:49

And your body will put you on your bum If you don't listen. Yeah, yeah. It's just like you're saying that it's just remembering and listening to what that body tells you, because it will speak to you. It does speak to you. We just need to learn to listen to it and understand what it's saying.

Speaker 2: 31:10

Yeah, and I think the more we do listen, the more we hear it, the more we understand. But it's that starting point of doing that. Isn't it Taking that time to do it and just and it only has to be little, small steps. Yeah, we're not asking you to no. So when you feel really tired, that is your body going. It's time to sleep. So instead of going, oh, I'll just do another hour's job or I'll just push through it, listen to it and sleep, yeah, unless you're driving down the road.

Speaker 1: 31:48

Don't do that.

Speaker 2: 31:48

No, then stop and sleep. Yeah, but that again is a perfect example, because if your body needs to sleep and you ignore it, it's going to sleep anyway. Yeah. And that can have tragic consequences.

Speaker 1: 32:05

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:06

So we need to listen to it. Yeah, rather than fighting and trying to keep your eyes open, don't fight it. Go with it. Stop Sleep. You only have to sleep for 10, 15 minutes and you've just done a recharge to keep going again. But they do reckon micro-enups are good for you, don't they? Yeah, they do, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:28

That mid-stage and like that, that few minutes just to.

Speaker 2: 32:32

Even if you sat and did a 10-minute meditation, you're recharging yourself, aren't you?

Speaker 1: 32:40

This is it, and even if you can never find the time or the money is. Having a massage is an equivalent to four to six hours worth of sleep, love, play.

Speaker 2: 32:52

What a lovely way to sleep. Oh, no yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:59

It is that equivalent, that relaxation, that.

Speaker 2: 33:03

With something like a massage. You're relaxing all the senses, aren't you?

Speaker 1: 33:06

Yes, Unless you get me and I'm mean to you and stick an elbow in you. Then it's not.

Speaker 2: 33:15

But you are because you're relaxing the muscles then, aren't you? Yeah, so you relax the mind initially with the treatment, but then you need to relax the muscles as well, and sometimes they just need a little bit of a kick to relax.

Speaker 1: 33:28

No, but then, like you say, that releases that tension and everything doesn't it? Yeah, fascinating, I love it.

Speaker 2: 33:37

So if you don't hear from us for the next six weeks, we're having a meeting. Oh, man, lin's being a bear. Oh, I would be.

Speaker 1: 33:48

Nice with me, Lodge Fire you have to fire going. You like somebody to just stoke?

Speaker 2: 33:53

your fire, wouldn't you?

Speaker 1: 33:55

Food. That's all I want. Lovely, sorry, excuse me. Yeah, yeah, sounds good. Be ideal, just stick me in one of those. I'll send a nowhere where nobody could find this. Sometimes we just have to go back to basics, don't we?

Speaker 2: 34:12

There's something about being back in basic, that nature and we're drawn to it, because how many of us like when we chill, run off to the beach and just sit, like you said, even if it is sat in the car watching the weather, but you're near the waves, you're, and you feel, if you just feel at home, don't you? It's almost like that area, being in that environment, just allows you to just go. Oh yeah, it is, isn't it? Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 34:42

I wonder if that is an evolution thing as well. It's because most of our well, you think if we came from animals, we would have been living outside anyway. Do you think? I came from a fish? Fucking fish, right, and you're a fucking like bloody pump-back whale.

Speaker 2: 35:01

That was a fish. That was a fish. Oh, my good God.

Speaker 1: 35:11

I'm now going to have to look at the categories of fish now, just to look.

Speaker 2: 35:16

I know it's a mammal, but it's still a fish.

Speaker 1: 35:22

Jesus, somebody come and get me help Please. I'm begging.

Speaker 2: 35:33

I'm not budging. It's a fish.

Speaker 1: 35:39

Oh no, but we were outside, we lived outside and we lived in caves. We didn't live in brick houses, we were central eating. Perhaps that's why we craved to go back to that, because it keeps us in touch with that and grounded.

Speaker 2: 36:02

And also, you've got the moon, haven't you? See the water is controlled by the moon. It is, and we're a lot of water.

Speaker 1: 36:11

We are between 17 and 80 percent water. So, like you say, that flows, that air, that flow, the moon airs and flows.

Speaker 2: 36:24

We can find nature as much as we want, but it will always be in control. It will, so we need to listen to that as well.

Speaker 1: 36:32

We need to understand that she is never going to go away. Love up she. She is mother nature, but we're not. It's never going to go away and it will always take things back. We just need to work in harmony.

Speaker 2: 36:53

Harmony with her and in harmony with ourselves, exactly and after ourselves, because we're a worth it.

Speaker 1: 37:00

That's a loyal Albert now, isn't it? Are the shampoos available? Loyal, because we're worth it. Who?

Speaker 2: 37:09

though. No, we are worth it, we are worth everything.

Speaker 1: 37:14

We're worth looking after. We're worth more expensive shampoo than Loyal, to be perfectly honest Not that I use shampoo, but that's a whole different story. But, yeah, we're worth the most expensive shampoo and conditioner we can buy, or whatever you choose to use on your head.

Speaker 2: 37:35

We're worth the time and effort to look after ourselves, because we only get this body once, so we've got to take care of it. Good for a picture of two, perfectly honest. Next time you come back, a pair, I'm going to buy you a fish.

Speaker 1: 37:52

I'm not sure I'd want to be a fish. Not if I'm a bear. You wouldn't, because I get to eat you, I'd eat you, I'd eat you as well. I'd come swimming in to find you, I'd fuck you up as a nice salmon and I'd go oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2: 38:10

So you, might need to come back to me All that note we're lovely and leave you. I'm off to. Um, yeah, I don't know, I've been egged, but not as a fish.

Speaker 1: 38:25

No, you'd have to come back as a fish in a different life, Not as a we're saying one as I come back to the bear. We'll have to make all just on track. Well, my darling lot's having an amazing day. Bye.