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From 16 to Now: A Journey of Loss, Love, and Learning!

Lynne and Tracey Episode 16

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Remember the first time you held a landline phone and felt the thrill of connecting with someone miles away? Or how about your first encounter with a computer? We're going to take you back to those times and reflect on how technology has shaped our lives so far. We'll share laughs about our shared familial landline, and discuss how the now ubiquitous computers were once a novelty. Be ready for some candid conversations about gender stereotypes we encountered in school, and how some subjects were only accessible to either boys or girls. 

Have you ever wondered how societal norms and expectations affect our emotions, especially during times of loss and grief? We'll be discussing this, sharing our personal experiences of loss, the impact on our families, and the pressure to grieve in a certain way. We believe it's essential to acknowledge and process emotions healthily and not be bound by societal expectations. Join us as we shed light on these often-neglected aspects of our lives.

Finally, we'd like you to journey with us back to our teenage years, as we share our own triumphs and trials at 16. We'll discuss how heartbreaks and misunderstandings with friends have shaped our behavior and mindset. This episode is a mix of the past and future, as we reflect on our experiences and consider how today's teenagers will remember their own. So, hop in for a journey that promises to be both entertaining and enlightening!

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Speaker 1:

Hello, hello, how's the Well? I've brought my sexy voice today. Oh, get you. You can bring this number on 0800. Yes, I've thought it along today. How many minutes are you charging, rupa? Only minutes are my charge. No, that's not. Oh, I can't even get that right. How much are you charging for a minute for this sexy voice? Oh, I'll have to think about that one. No, I've just got the energy for that. No, I mean, you have to be on this level. Don't make off. Damn, can I not make off? Are we not allowed to laugh during this episode? Because it's going to make you cough? Shall we try that? No, I'm just going to say that's an absolute no hope round. There's no way that that's going to happen on this level, not at all. No, that's fine, absolutely fine.

Speaker 1:

Do you know this is our 16th episode. It's a sweet 16 year, I wish. Do you remember that far back? What were you up to? Do you know? I was reading a post today from some of my schoolmates. 44 years ago I left school, so I was 16 then, weren't I? Yes, 44 freaking years ago. That's a long time ago. There'll be 44 years next year. That's a long time ago. That's a very long time ago. That's a very long time ago. I bet some people are listening to this, or even that old. Can you imagine not even being 16? Can you remember back to being 16? Fagely, yeah. Can you remember how you felt at 16? Because you think right at 16, if you said we would be doing this now at our age, can you imagine what our response would have been at 16? Yeah, what if that's a podcast? What's a microphone? Yeah, what a head. Don't talk rubbish. How do you do that? Digital stuff? What do you mean? You're talking people with the day.

Speaker 1:

I was still going at the phone box. Then we had a phone in our house on a cord With a shared line. Was it attached to the wall? No, it was. I mean, the cord was you can walk away with it. Yeah, but yeah. Yeah but yeah. He used to stand in the hall on a phone cord. It was freezing.

Speaker 1:

My dad wouldn't let me use the phone to phone me friends because it was too expensive, so I had to go to the phone box to do that. People keep library books in phone books now, not phones. I remember reverse charging the cord once to my mum when I was out. I just shat myself. I thought she's going to kill me for doing that because it cost much. Funny, isn't it? I was just like I'm going to go to the phone box and I'm going to go to the phone box and I'm going to go to the phone box, funny, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

And you used to answer the phone with your phone number. I don't still remember our phone number. Yeah, I can as well. I used to get a little charred 3416.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, who used to say that? It's back to the portable frame? It's funny, isn't it? Why did I do that? I have no idea.

Speaker 1:

People don't know what number they've run. They just run it. For God's sake, can I just do it that way? Yeah, if you all pick up, I don't want you to read it off by six. I've forgotten my phone number. I've been off an 11 digit number. When I'm over on my answer, I pretend we don't know who's calling because it's not from up on the ID.

Speaker 1:

But can you remember having that conversation? Like, oh, they say one day they want to see people that you're talking to. It's like no, we'll carry it right away. It's like, no, we'll carry it right in our pocket. That's it, you think, the things we carry around in our pockets now I love, but, yeah, but have more memory and power than the computers we would have had as kids. Yeah, all you had was great little green letters you didn't have any pictures on your screen and they were huge. Did you have it where they like? Wheeled them in at school? Yeah, I don't think we've ever had them at school. Actually, saying that, I think I remember that in our computers at school. I remember they from my day. Ah, chalkboard, it was a feather and a quill in my day, I didn't care. Yeah, we never had computers at school. I think they started to come in just as I was leaving. I reckon in the 4, 4, 5th year we might have had one or two.

Speaker 1:

Funny enough, there was even certain lessons I wasn't allowed to do because I was female. No, no, oh no, that's the same truth. We weren't allowed to do well, I did do work at some point, but yeah, no, what were you not allowed to do? I'm not allowed to do technical drawing because I was female and I had to go half a day every week. I had to go to college to learn typing. Only the women, only the girls. I know my mum made me do typing. We had to from the school. We had a choice. We had a choice. But they did typing lessons later, after my mum made me do them. You'd always fall back on that, lin, when you needed it. Everybody was going to be a secretary, weren't they? Yes, I schooled with the construction drawing just because I could. Ha, ha, ha ha. At college it was like an FU. Yeah, it was. That was all because they wouldn't let me do tech drawing.

Speaker 1:

It was funny, wasn't it? We could sample woodwork. We weren't allowed to sample metalwork. No, I didn't do metalwork, we weren't allowed to do it. So we could do a sample lesson, but we weren't actually allowed to do the lesson. I did something in woodwork because I remember making a fish for my dad. It's a bit random. I think I might have just thought I got it somewhere. But yeah, we weren't allowed to do metalwork. No, we weren't allowed to do metalwork.

Speaker 1:

How times have changed. Can you imagine that? Now, god, it's all you across the coals, the other one, and so quite, quite the same, absolutely. Why shouldn't we be allowed to do that? Because we're girls, I know. What difference does it make Whether you've got dangly bits or not? Well, I don't think it makes any difference whether you've got dangly bits or not. It's the weather. You could do metalwork or old as so, to be perfectly honest, no, it's crazy, isn't it? Absolutely crazy? Yeah, do you wish you could go back to being 16? Oh, I don't know about that.

Speaker 1:

I was very angry, 16. Okay, so I'm not sure. Not sure, I was the loveliest person at 16. See, that surprises me. Oh, my nice person. Yeah, well, most of the time, except when I get questions, no, I said, well, it's just understanding, it, isn't it? I didn't understand what was going on around me. So you become angry Because, because I didn't know how to deal with my emotions.

Speaker 1:

I had lots of emotions going on, from the environment I was in, which, which Made me an angry person because I didn't know how to express myself in in any way. So it's now I know that's like. That was just like, yeah, suppressed, because I was suppressing everything and I was angry at everybody, because you're Programmed to be angry at everybody else, on your name, everybody else and never actually dissect it and look at it and ask questions. Why so? Yeah, I just blamed everybody else, but it, you know, it was nobody's fault. Now, when I look back, it was nobody's fault at all. It was just sometimes Because everybody else is in that situation of not really knowing what to do or how to express yes, so we were in this whole little Bubble really. So they didn't talk about emotions in those days. They certainly didn't in my day, no bless, like you know, especially love my dad and he couldn't. He couldn't talk about emotions at all, because I don't think they did. Especially men then, god knows not, something that popped up they wouldn't talk about, it wasn't mental health. I'm thinking mental health wasn't a thing 30 years ago, let alone, you know, you know 40, 50 years exactly. And I think then that had a consequence on there as a couple, because couples never talked. Oh God, no At all. No, it's not like you went to couples counseling in those. No, no, I was all shoved underneath the carpet. Let's pretend it's all okay.

Speaker 1:

I think I've mentioned this before, but I remember watching a video about the abacus Any disaster, where they had the mud landslide onto the school, oh yeah, and it showed the men in a line and it was real footage, black and white footage, and it was silent. It was really eerie and, oh my god, it broke my heart because the men were all in a line Obviously digging through the mud, lifting out the children a lot of them were dead and then passing them down the line and people were handling their own children, and Then the women were stood on the mudbank, known, and the women were helping because that's not what they did. Then they were all stood on the mudbank watching this happen, but there was no emotion from any of the men or any of the women, because that wasn't how it was done then. And and they and they interviewed some of the couples afterwards and the women said what happened then. If they'd lost a child in the disaster, the woman was sent away for the day and the men would clear the child's room. Every possession there was never spoken about again.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god, how horrendous Is. That meant Terrific, yeah, and it just made me think, oh my god, it was none of their fault, but it's just that's. Then they were programmed To believe that's how you behave, that's how you dealt with it. I'm losing a child, yeah, awful, yeah it is. And, like you say, that has such a long-term effect and I know from A person experience through my husband that you that has an effect on other siblings with it, the other children Within that family, it's not just the parents that, yeah, and I know when, like when I lost my brother I think he was 38, 28 my dad Couldn't deal with that at all. No, the time you mentioned his name, you could watch my dad's mouth just dry up and he'd leave the room. Yeah, because my mum would actually Talk, yeah, I am, which was good.

Speaker 1:

But, um, and this is why you know, you realize it's nobody's fault. No, this is it, isn't it? But like set 16, you don't do you know? And because I was in an environment where they didn't really share Emotions unless it got a bit heated, and then, you know, everybody would have a good old sort of shape. So, yeah, was it? I was, I was angry at them, was angry at myself, obviously, and I was, I was angry at the world, and all kids are at 16.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I and I have to see that now, you know, you look at some kids that In school and angry, and they're lashing out and and they get the blame for that, whereas actually sometimes just need to sit down and talk. It's just that they don't know what to do with all these emotions, that they have no idea what to do with the most. You know what we led to believe is right or wrong, emotions and good or bad, whatever, and they don't know what to do with it. And then they, you know they've got nowhere to go with it. No, and then you become angry. And then people see you as angry. So you think, well, I just be angry because people expect me to be angry. Yeah, so I just be angry Because that's what people have always said. I am, yeah, and the minute you are angry, then you can't then be something else. No, you're also caught in that program trap yourself, or well, it's, people expect me to be angry now, so I can't be anything else. I couldn't sit and cry now because, no, you know, then you would go with. That's not who I am. No, it's funny, isn't it? Yeah, and it's funny, like to say, other people's expert.

Speaker 1:

I remember the conversation with my friend of my eldest son and he would have been about 16 at the time and he was working in a local shop in town and I'd gone in to go and get something for my youngest son, for Scouts or tentors or whatever, and I remember having a conversation with him and him saying and I was chatting and he was going. Then going, he decided he was going to sign up for the army and stuff like that. And I was like, good on you, and we were talking and he had been tired with the sick. His elder brother had been a bit of a Bit of a rogue a rogue at school and stuff like that. And when he started the same school they were like, oh, you like your brother and all this and the other, and they was tired, him with the same brush and his words. I remember the words really clearly. We're like, well, I've.

Speaker 1:

When they told me I was like him, I thought I might as well be like him, even though there you go, you know, and he had that foresight to say that at 16. It probably nearly 17, the fact that he'd been, so he thought he might as well live up to that because that's what they thought he might like, be like, even though they haven't. Yeah, whereas I had the opposite, because my oldest brother was 15 years older than me. He was really good at school. So then when some of the teachers, when I started school was still that, were still there and Wasn't bad at school, I wasn't good either, and then they would say to me why aren't you like your brother? So then then, because I wasn't like my brother, that's the opposite fact. Well, I'll just be. So you just complete us. Then, yeah, because you expect me to be like that and I'm not like that. So I just be an honest. Yeah, so that, let me say. So that would have helped with it.

Speaker 1:

By the time you're 16, you've been angry because, yeah, it's funny, isn't it? Yeah, and I think, yeah, I can definitely remember feeling like I didn't fit in a place, because I sort of I was quite lucky, the sense I got on with most people, but I didn't really feel like I sat anywhere. So I think I like a little bit lost really. So then you're not quite sure where you fit and whatnot, and then it's hard. It is, though, isn't it? But I think I don't think I'm very normal now, but I think that is actually.

Speaker 1:

You find out more that our brains aren't developed enough to understand a lot of stuff at 16., even if we all like to believe that we're quite mature at 16. I always thought I was mature at 16. We think we know everything, you know, then we know everything. We think our parents have done nothing. What is that, I know we forget that they've had a life, oh yeah, but you don't do it. We don't ever want to listen to them.

Speaker 1:

I think it's that phase of being told as well, isn't it? I think it is that becoming independent, isn't it? And being of your own thoughts and making up your own mind. And I always think, could I remember the transition with mine from secondary school to college? So it would have been like that 16, 17. But how? Not off the rails, but just like they suddenly go from being told what to do at school all the time and you need to be here and you're not allowed out the door and they're given in the fifth year is slightly, a little bit more lenient, aren't they? I know some of the teachers treat them a little bit more like adults when they reach the fifth year or whatever year. It is now yeah, 11. Yeah, 11 or something.

Speaker 1:

But then to go to college when they're completely you know you turn up to your lesson, we're not going to chase you. Yeah, do you know what I mean? You don't have to stay on the premises, you can go. It's just like they look like shit. What the fuck do I do with that? I know, it's really difficult, isn't it? It's really difficult for everybody, and I think it's so easy to forget what you're like at that age. And I think the trouble is as a parent, don't we? We do get screwed up with what. We want the best for them, and then, but then we put a bit of R, we want the best for you, and then we don't allow them, or not that we don't allow them. We try to put a little bit of control in there, to try and lead them a certain way, which is what we should not do. No, I think the world is very different now, isn't it? From the jobs that we were brought up with, yeah, to the jobs that are out there now. You just got to, just got to let people be who they are more, and I think if you give people that independence to do that, you allow that to evolve. Yeah, you allow.

Speaker 1:

I don't think that we allow children a lot of the time to make mistakes. No, we don't. We never and I know for definite, I've never wanted my kids to make the same mistakes I've made and I've never wanted my children to feel the way that I have felt. However, they do both, they've done both, yeah, and we've all done that, but actually they don't feel it. How do they know? And that's. But this is it, isn't it? You're like, you know, don't make the same mistakes as a parent. You feel that pain too, don't you? I can't do that and that's the thing, isn't it? And then, but I think that then that gives you, I know, it gives you, it gives you things to realise why your parents were like they were when you were a teenager.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I can see my dad was really strict with me as a teenager. You know I had to be in some stupid time of day, do you know what I mean? And you know you don't have to stand outside too long on your video boyfriend and stuff like that. But that isn't it. See, that's like a two problem thing, because they do that. You take that he doesn't trust me. Yes, it's not you, he's not trusting, it's the other person. Oh yeah, he definitely did trust that boyfriend. Trust me? No, he hated his guts. But how we? We can see what they're saying, isn't it? Yes, because I can. I remember God.

Speaker 1:

So I'd been with this chat since I was just before I was 15. And my dad hated him. My dad didn't have a good word to say about him at all. I don't think it helped that he rode a motorbike, so that definitely didn't help. Oh, I'm gonna laugh at that one, such a whining One more In Tracy's half a bike group. But you know.

Speaker 1:

So, like you say, isn't it? He never, he didn't trust him. But I remember getting really upset I can't even remember what it was and, like you say, he'd go, but dad doesn't love me because he won't let me do this. My mum's going, no, no, it's okay. I was like oh no.

Speaker 1:

But, like you say, feeling that he didn't love me or trusted me. But, like you say, it wasn't bad, it was just the blank he did trust. And it's like a bike world in a, in a hole. Really it's not even just that one person. It's like you're. You're having to allow your child, who's growing up into this unknown world to them that, whether it's them, or then or now, it's a scary world. Well, yes, and then they're going to get hurt. But and you've got a loa, open the door and go. You think back in those days the world was in my head and I'm sure I'm probably talking out of my ass. The world didn't seem such a scary a place? No, because that's because you're a young adult and it never does. Does it know? Do anything? Would we Know?

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't my eyelashes to get in a nightclub at 16. No, it's not. Oh, drunk, perno and black. Until my mouth was a really funny color, perno black. So I was like cold 50p a shot in the cellar bar. It didn't even last the hour. It used to be my tip of choice Once. That was never again. Oh, nice, light Perno.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, no, I could get away with being quite happy on that and not like, yeah, I did drink months, too much months, and came home and fell off the toilet. My dad had to pick me up off the toilet floor, which I found clearly highly amusing. I'm not entirely sure my dad was overly impressed. You can't even get away with that these days. Oh, no, because I mean, god, we used to get in pubs and clubs and all sorts at 16, didn't you? Couldn't do that now Funny, no, can't they? I do you for everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my little son still gets ID. Now is 29. That's funny, isn't it? Yeah, but then you've got to look under something like 27 and it, or 25, 25, yeah, if you look under 20. Yeah, my system. Take it, because when you're my age, you'll be glad the fact that you've got decent ID Cheers go. No, I got ID'd in Dunnellm because I was buying a massive kitchen knife. Well, I could have kissed the man. Yeah, he's only a young. Yeah, yeah, so I made my day. I think he was probably new, so he had to do it with everybody he felt he ought to. Yeah, let's make sure so he didn't get it wrong, because you haven't got grey hairs and like 30 000 wrinkles over your face, exactly. Excuse me, oh, my god. So, yeah, I don't know if I'd want to go back there or not. See you, I see what it's going to say. It's really funny.

Speaker 1:

So when I started doing a lot of this work, I there was a point I kept saying all I want to be is, I want to feel how I felt at 16. So there was part of being probably I don't know, probably a few months within being between 16 and 17 that I really loved. I felt really confident, I was happy, I was not really giving a shit, I wasn't doing too much. People please Well, that's a lie. I did people please, because I went out with John, so that was people pleasing, blessing my husband. Now that's fine. Well, I was just working the head of my head. Why were you people pleasing? Because I wasn't that fat, right, okay. But now I need to explain this. So, right, okay, if I take a long story short, I started working for a local supermarket in the town where I lived. It was a new supermarket that was just opening up. I moved from the lovely gateway you could the gateway you had shut down where I Gateways. So, yeah, I used to work in gateways and that was shutting down. So this new supermarket was opening up. So I got a job there. John got a job there. He was my manager.

Speaker 1:

We used to get on really well, just as like colleagues and friends, and we used to get on really well. I didn't think that there was an ulterior motive. Clearly they was on his part and he asked me out and I really wasn't bothered because I was having a bit of a time that I was like I'd broken up for my previous boyfriend a few months earlier. I was loving life, dude, all that kind of thing. So I wasn't particularly bothered. So, yeah, I did a bit of people pleasing and went out with him and rest his history after, say, 30 odd 35, maybe 36 years later.

Speaker 1:

I love this story. But yes, but it's not that I didn't like him, it was just that in my head at that time. I wasn't looking at it. We got on really well, we were really good friends, um, and stuff, and we used to have like a real figure, that work and all that kind of thing, um, but yeah, I I was just busy going out, having a good time, having a good time, that kind of thing really so. But, like you say, I in that time I felt I felt confident, I felt Relatively happy doing that that time when I was On my own and I'd got over Heartbreak. But yeah, I just kind of felt I felt okay and good with myself. So when we started it was just like that's where I want to go back to. That's because that's the only time I remembered feeling particularly yeah.

Speaker 1:

But it was just a few months between the ages of maybe 16, starting early in 17. Yeah, it was just about those out, you know, enjoying life, meeting people. Yeah, I can totally get that point of view because I think leaving school don't give me wrong I had some good laughs at school. I love school for the laughs and all that, particularly like school for anything else. Yeah, not sure where I fitted in there, but and then let's call it, I got a job and did like college one day a week and love that job. It was great. Yeah, not sure I was. Hmm, can't remember really how I felt. It's funny, isn't it? And I don't know whether I'm looking at that through rose tinted glasses, because I only remember that that bit if I, if I'm honest, if I've got to think in that time I broke up with that long, previous, long term boyfriend. I remember the heartbreak of that.

Speaker 1:

I remember having a massive argument with a friend of mine I was due to go on holiday with, and that's definitely pivotal. That was definitely pivotal in how that changed, how I behaved from there on in, in the fact that she asked me to be honest with her and I was honest with her. Against my better judgment, I was honest with her and that just blew up and that I know for a fact. That was a key point in pivoting and changing me, where I never I catch them. So that right now, hang on, I have to ask a question here why, in your bed judgment, I'm guessing there was already part of me that would have not been honest, because I'm getting within my family dynamic it didn't always do well in telling people how you truly felt or the truth, so it didn't always. So I'm guessing there was already a part of me that was I shouldn't say anything because it was going to upset somebody. She wanted the trip.

Speaker 1:

So, if I tell you the story, me and her were really good friends. I was also good friends with her then boyfriend at the time. I knew that her then boyfriend at the time was cheating on her and he told me that too Because I was friends with him. And she asked me that question. You just honest, I was honest with her. But that backlash in the fact that she thought I was trying to break him and her up because he told her that that's what I was trying to do, as you do at 16. Do you know what I mean? You kind of like you stand apart. So, yeah, so because now when you look at it, you know it's just everybody looking at me. So this is it and you told the truth. You were honest, which is what you should have done. Yeah, so, like you said, she took that Because she that's not what she wanted. She didn't really want to hear about coverage. Yeah, exactly so, yeah, so that's so that, like you say, so there are parts amazing that that then shaped everything going forward for you. Yeah, yeah, just start. Yeah, wow, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, like you say, I'm sounding like it was all lovely at 16. I'm seeing it through rose tinted glasses, but actually there were points within that that were. But that's good. You see it like that, because I look at it as a quite a red, angry time, where it's. Actually I had a lot of fun in those in those times, even even you know, there were bits in there that were uncomfortable. I actually had a lot of fun in that time, but that's not the feeling I remember. It's funny, isn't it? Whereas I think I probably had more fun than the other way. But that's not what I remember. It's really interesting how so We've seen it in complete opposite ways. Yeah, yeah, interesting. Yeah, I remember that feeling of being confident and thinking that's the only time in my life I've ever felt that way, whereas I look at that time in my life as quite a negative time. Whereas actually, if I truthfully sit with it, I was 16. I was having fun. I just liked your leave score. I got a job. I had a decent job, a lot of fun in the job, loved my job, learning to drive. So then, 17 going in, you know, freedom, yeah, interesting. See how we remember that and how we both see that in different ways.

Speaker 1:

And I wonder what 16 year olds now would see their life in, like 30. What are they going to remember about being 16 now? I love it, it is, and I love being able to look back at it now with the eyes that we've got now, the knowledge that we've got now. I'd like to be 16 again and get 13 weeks on a day. Yeah, that would be quite nice. Yeah, it would be. That would be. I could say I'd like to go back, but not necessarily. That's not true. Take that back, lee. I don't want to go back. It would be nice to be 16 again, but know that what I know now you wouldn't do anything, would you?

Speaker 1:

You wouldn't be out in the town getting bladded on vodka, would you? I don't do well on vodka, love, well, I'm not very nice on vodka. No, because you can't buy a perno anymore, which is wrong, by the way. Why can you not buy a perno, perno makers? Why can you not buy a perno? I'd say it's not popular. But see, you wouldn't do all that, would you? You wouldn't be riding around on a back-on-the-boat bike like 100 miles an hour.

Speaker 1:

Maybe that's why our brains are not developed enough at 16. They're not supposed to be. Because they're not supposed to be, because it allows you to do all the stupid things that you want to do without any fear. And you've got to do those stupid things because otherwise you don't learn. And okay, some people just keep doing stupid things and never, ever learn.

Speaker 1:

But who eats a junk when it's time to grow up? Oh, no, yeah, growing up sucks. Yeah, can we go to a week's holiday? No, we can do it. We should do certain jobs. Maybe you can't do that. Do you want to do that? Yeah, what do you say? Yeah, of course it's a fortune to go out and get pissed these days too. Oh my God, yeah, yeah, I can remember the perno night 50-year shot.

Speaker 1:

That was a good night for 20 quid. I don't think I'm going to spend 20 quid all night. I was going to spend about 5 quid, not as absolutely crap as I remember. I remember how much it used to be to get in the Palace Night Club. A quid, a couple of quid, I think. Funny enough, I was going to drink a bit of a bit of Dash. Who ever drinks bit of Dash? Me and my mate Joel, we'd go out and get a ride. Who's under the table first tonight? Two points of bit of Dash, please? Oh my God. Of course he tells us to remind him. Oh my God.

Speaker 1:

So one of the first times me and Joel went to the pictures together so I would have been 17. And it was when the cinema was in on the corner of Staplecoy Road and Station Road, before it got knocked down, the 10th flat, and we went. What do we go and see? Oh my God, I think it was either Top Gun or Fatal Attraction. And in Moe, mike Bidead. It cost him a fiver for the two of us to go in, and I asked five of the two of you. It's £2.50 each.

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I should have known then. I don't know why. I'd start from it. Well, I could buy a packet of 25s for 48p. No, yes, 20 embassy number ones for 48p. Is that what you were smoking at 16? Or that? And Benson and Edges. Benson and Edges on a payday Is that your treat on a payday? Benson and Edges were my go-to, but I did start on embassy number one.

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Oh my God, kids, don't do it. In fact, nobody does it. No, don't do it. Oh, yeah, don't do that either. Gosh, you're bloody fortune. What a vape still costs a fortune. I think it's a good deal. In general it does. God knows what it is now. I think it's rather a lot. I think it's like £10-12 a packet in there. I think it's more than that actually, is it? I think so. Did you buy that? Yeah, did it then? Wow, for a quid I could get 25s and a single record For a quid, wow, yeah.

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Then were the days Willies. Do you remember going in willies and getting the singles when they used to come out on a Thursday? Yeah, brilliant, funny enough. Taping the top 40 off the radio on a Sunday? Yeah, and they asked the DJ, we were always bloody. Statement, we didn't want to. It doesn't even have to be a clipboard button. My mum used to listen to the top 40 radio. She used to do the ironing on a Sunday evening and she always used to have the top 40 radio on Orally on. Yeah, but yeah, it's definitely on Orally on.

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Yeah, just do mix tapes for people. That's funny, isn't it? My ex-boyfriend did that for me a mix tape. I remember doing me a mix tape. Oh, no, it's for the day. Where's the dimes? Do you like to do? Kids do things like that, or do they just do mix tapes? Well, no, because, no, they don't do it. We're not mix tapes, but yeah, they do.

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John sent me a Spotify list that he'd done for me. That's your equivalent, isn't it? That's your equivalent, isn't it? Have a mix tape. Yeah, I still forget that, though, sometimes, don't you? I'm not going to buy that seat in, and I think I've got bloody Spotify. I can't buy anything Exactly. It's funny.

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Why do you forget? I think you do, though, don't you? Yeah, funny how all the old stuff's coming back as well, isn't it Like your vinyls in your tapes? Yeah, you know. Yeah, except nobody's got a tape recorder. No, and those youngsters out there that are going to do in tapes you need a pencil, yes, because their little bag is unwind. You'll find out why when you try and take it out of the tape recorder and the tape left in there. Cool, yeah, love it. Gutted, right, yeah. Now look, oh, you've got a scratch in your vinyl, and then it was oh, I love it.

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Don't see, look, we've reminisced for 40 minutes about all it's like you know, are they? Yeah? And I bet all those people, if you go all through the generations, will probably say exactly the same thing, be saying exactly the same. Oh, I'm not like it my day. We used to do that, yeah, and when you look at it you know it was like 2000 years ago and they were saying it as well. And in 2000 years. That's what I mean.

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Innit, do you reckon, yeah, like the 16 year olds now, when they get to like 50 and 60, are they the same? Yes, they're the same. And what are they going to be speaking into? Well, god knows, god knows. Do you reckon they'll all be like holographs? Probably Holographs.

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Is it a holograph or hologram? Holograms, what's a holograph? I don't know. What is a hologram? I don't know. Have I just made that word up? No, I think there is a hologram. They're holograms, aren't they? Yeah, like, remember off a red dwarf? I've never seen it. What? I haven't watched Red Dwarf. And she moans the fuck at me. I know that. No, I'm leaving that. I can't believe you've not watched Red Dwarf. How dare you? No, harry Potter, that's even worse. We can no longer be friends if you've not watched Red Dwarf or Harry Potter. No, that's it. Two things compared to your 22 things that you haven't watched. I'm having none of it.

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Thank you to listening to our sweet 16 podcast. Yeah, you haven't been listening to us reminiscing about the good old days. Yeah, go back and visit. I'm now and again. Oh, I've got a two sometimes. Yeah, absolutely, and just notice how much we've changed in these number of years. Yeah, but also think about things you've actually told yourself about those. Yes, and I think it would be very nice today, what we're telling ourselves maybe not quite the truth. No, I think we've been telling ourselves a lot of Pollux and Ball. Yeah, and we do that a lot, I think, for a lot of number of years. Yeah, absolutely Right, you have a wonderful day, you gorgeous lot, and we'll speak to you soon. Bye.

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