The Transformative Power of Rest and Why Our Bodies Have Kicked our Arses!

Ever find yourself battling the urge to hit snooze, yet again, as the morning light peeks through your curtains? You're not alone. We all tangle with the need to keep moving, even when our minds and bodies scream for a timeout. This episode takes you on a personal journey through the highs and lows of emotional endurance, challenging the notion that productivity is the yardstick of success. As we candidly recount the times we've ignored our need for rest, we also consider the surprising ways lunar cycles might be playing a role in our daily energy ebbs and flows. The conversation takes a turn towards the profound as we recognize the value of simply being there for someone – a concept reflected in the story of Kate Garraway's husband – and the shared experience of bearing witness to each other's struggles without the compulsion to fix things.

For many of us, giving ourselves permission to indulge or simply take a breath feels like a guilty pleasure. In this heart-to-heart, we confess to moments of self-indulgence, like sneaking our kids' holiday treats, and confront the guilt that shadows our pleasure. Amid reflections on the excess and expectations wrapped up in holiday traditions, we champion the concept of self-care as a non-negotiable. The rawness of real-life anecdotes punctuates our discussion, driving home the message that embracing our imperfections and showing ourselves compassion can be transformative.

As we wrap up, the conversation shifts towards the bigger picture, contemplating the sweeping changes needed in our society. It's a moment of introspection and a rallying cry for self-acceptance as the catalyst for wider transformation. By facing our emotions and the delicate dance between the masculine and feminine energies within us, we uncover insights into personal and societal well-being. Our dialogue is an intimate and powerful reminder of the impact that individual growth can have on the world at large, and how caring for ourselves is the first step in caring for our collective future.

Chapters

• 0:46 Navigating Emotions and Life's Pressures
• 12:29 Importance of Being Present and Listening
• 21:36 Navigating Emotions and Self-Care
• 35:57 Embracing Change and Self Acceptance

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:46

oh hello, it's deciding to play. Now it's on a go slow. It's feeling a bit like us I think it is today you want to wake up did it didn't my laptop, and audacity doesn't want to play the game today, just like us we're feeling it a bit today.

Speaker 2: 1:06

Oh, aren't we? Yeah, didn't want to get out of bed this morning.

Speaker 1: 1:11

Oh, didn't want to wake up, have zero motivation honestly, I had to be in work for 10 and, I'm not gonna lie, I crawled my ass out of bed at quarter past nine yeah and that was an effort it that you know what.

Speaker 2: 1:25

That's exactly the words that it feels at the moment. It all feels like it's a bit of an effort. Yeah, and I did some bits this morning and then I sat in the chapel make coffee. I thought what's going on? I could actually fall asleep, and I never fall asleep. Well, I say I never fall asleep in the chair but last night I was listening to some stuff online. I just kept falling asleep. Talk about being a 90 year old, I know.

Speaker 2: 1:57

Sometimes it's catching up with you yeah it has been like that this week, but I think it's a bit. It's a bit of a time and I don't know whether everybody's feeling a bit like that. I don't know whether it's, I don't think it's a bit. It's a bit of a time and I don't know whether everybody's feeling a bit like that. I don't know whether it's, I don't know. It's the really moony things going on.

Speaker 1: 2:12

Well, yeah, there's some major like eclipses going on, so that never helps, and right planetary stuff going on, and we've just come out of a full moon, so yeah, there's there's lots of stuff going on like that, but, like you say, it's just the tiredness and the complete lethargy and not wanting to do anything other than get up and then just sit on the sofa and do nothing.

Speaker 2: 2:35

I could just yes, good job. It's like a bank holiday weekend because I'm just going to do that but I think we should, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 2:42

but I think we all need to do that.

Speaker 2: 2:45

Yeah, I think it is a bit of a kick-ass, isn't it Like? If you're feeling like it and we're so bad at this, aren't we God? Yeah, when you're feeling like it, then you should go with it. Yeah, If your body wants to sleep, if your body wants to rest and just do nothing, then you should let it, because it's telling you something isn't it.

Speaker 1: 3:06

But we don't, do we? We ignore it for so long we think, oh no, we've got to get up. No, that makes us lazy. No, we can't do that.

Speaker 2: 3:14

That's just that stupid little negative voice, isn't it? Yeah, bombards us with that, whereas actually we know we should be resting.

Speaker 1: 3:23

Yeah, and we've just got to accept that sometimes, haven't we, and go with it. Oh, definitely, I think you have to, don't you? I think we we're so out of tune of listening to our bodies, yeah, but I think that's been so programmed out of us, yeah, for and I didn't, I just mean, I think that's been programmed out of people for generations.

Speaker 2: 3:47

Yeah, but we don't listen to that, and more so, I think, these days, because the hustle and bustle of it and whereas we all used to have not all, but the majority of us had nine to five Monday to Friday jobs, we're in a world now where that doesn't exist and even if we have, people have emails on demand and whatnot. So we don't, we don't even have that weekend break that we used to have. No, do we, where Friday, friday night shut the door, your job's done, that you'd have a couple of days, yeah, chill, do your own thing, rest. We don't. We just. We just push through everything these days.

Speaker 1: 4:35

I know we do like you say, and I think we've expected there to be such a demand, haven't we? You know that you can access things 24 7, can't you? And you can, yeah, go to the shop.

Speaker 2: 4:47

You know some of them 24 7, yeah yeah, which means a lot of people now don't know, get any breaks?

Speaker 1: 4:55

no, they don't. Do they, like you say, they don't necessarily get like the whole weekend. And even if you have two days off during the week because you work the weekend, you know if you've got families, that involves doing everything that you need to do. School runs, all that malarkey, yeah, I, but I don't think it's the same as having no a weekend off say is it we do?

Speaker 2: 5:18

we do need to listen more, absolutely. And we, even with pain, we're gorgeous, we don't you know. Pain is there for a reason, and if something's hurting, your body's going, something's not right here, you need to sort it out, yeah, and what we do is shove a painkiller in our gob and then go shut up. Yeah, carry on as you were.

Speaker 1: 5:43

Type thing, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 5:44

yeah, because I've just numbed it, so it's not going to hurt. Now, do you know what made me think? Actually, it's a bit like our emotions, isn't it really? Well, that's true, yeah, but it is, isn't it? That's what we do with them, don't we? When we've got, when we've got emotions niggling us that we don't know quite what to do with them, we just shove them in a box and go, yeah, I don't know what to do with that, or I don't really know how to deal with that, so I just put it in a box and lock it away and shove it in the cupboard and I've got to deal with it?

Speaker 1: 6:15

I think they would. I think I think, if you gave people a pill that could numb their emotions, people would take it yeah, well, there is a pill.

Speaker 2: 6:26

Isn't there really? Because isn't that really okay what antidepressants do? To a certain extent, that's true. Yeah, people could become a little bit numb to, and people want to, but people almost want to become numb to them because they don't know how to deal with them Exactly.

Speaker 1: 6:45

That isn't it.

Speaker 2: 6:46

You don't know how to be sad or angry, or upset or fearful If you look in the work world of grief, when somebody is experienced, somebody's lost somebody and they experience grief. There's an allowance and each company, I think, is different. So you might get three days but you're only allowed those three days if it's a certain person you know. It might be somebody else in your family, or it might be a friend or something. You don't get allocated any days for that to grieve.

Speaker 1: 7:38

No, it be a friend or something, you don't get allocated any days for that to grieve. No, three days if it's a a parent or, yeah, partner. Yeah, that's madness. Yeah, three days, like it's all over and done within three freaking days. You haven't even started. Have you to grieve in three days? You're numb for like weeks on end before you even start that process and like you say it's just rubbish. Yeah, you're three days so you can sort out the funeral. Oh, my god, give me a freaking break exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2: 7:58

Yeah, it's, it's mad, it is absolute madness when you, when you think of it like that is it is crazy you know, there's like seven different emotions attached to grief are there, yeah I can't remember what they were, but if you're expecting me, to come out with that.

Speaker 1: 8:25

I was waiting. Say it's a ball bag of grief. I don't know why that came up she's always.

Speaker 2: 8:39

She's always here to lower the tone. You know this I had no idea.

Speaker 1: 8:42

That's the first thought that came into my bag is a ball bag of grief. I don't know, that's horrendous.

Speaker 2: 8:50

It's a bag of emotions, was what I meant yeah, and I think, I think grief is probably the real. Grief is a biggie. Grief is a biggie anyway. It's huge and there is no time. You know, I know they say time heals and it gets, it gets easier. Because I think you you do, time gives you that honor to deal with it a little bit more, sit with it a little bit more and maybe understand it a little bit more, so it eases it.

Speaker 2: 9:24

But it never, ever goes away, does it? No, it doesn't, you know. And little things just trigger that out of the blue and suddenly it can be hurling back at you like a whirlwind. Yeah, people go. Oh my, it's been 20 years. I shouldn't be feeling this, but why shouldn't you?

Speaker 1: 9:47

That's the thing, like you're saying, especially if you're in a low place, low mood, you're tired, Do you know what I mean? So you're not at your best. It's always those times that kind of, do you?

Speaker 2: 10:02

know what. You actually hit the nail on the head for something for me this week because we just said like we've been feeling really tired and and unmotivated this week and, um, I was going through my my nail stuff in the week and found some little decals with um Winnie the Pooh and Tigger and and I've got them all.

Speaker 2: 10:26

Oh, I wonder what you've got on your nails. Yeah, so I've got Tigger and Piglet on my nails and I sat there and just burst into tears because my brother always used my brother died like 30 years ago, um and he always called me piglet so and I so to me he was always my tigger. Yes, he was the nutty bouncy, you know, and so I've got them on my nails, but it just brought all that. And you know, don't get me wrong, I think about him, not every day, but every week, it's something, but it just really like pinned big and it's probably because I was feeling a bit weary, a bit, yeah, down in the dumps, whatever you want to call it. So it, you know, it just twigs a little harder, doesn't it?

Speaker 1: 11:14

I think it does and actually, to be honest, I think it's sometimes it's that's a good thing, because it just it gives you that opportunity to to just like kind of cry in it and like let that out and just yeah, it's for whatever reason. You're just like letting that out and I always think.

Speaker 2: 11:32

It's like you find these things at times when you need to let them out. You know, you hear people say, oh my God, I opened a drawer and there was something that you haven't seen for years, that they long to say, yeah, your mum or your dad or something, and it just triggered that, that tearful moment, but which usually we suppress because we think, oh, shouldn't you know? This is it, I shouldn't be doing that, I shouldn't be crying now, it's been so many years, or.

Speaker 1: 12:03

But there should be no shoulds and shouldn'ts and, like you say, it's just those. It is those moments, isn't it? You know it's funny, you know you're saying that and I had that a couple of weeks ago, where, you know, I was sorting out my loft and you know my mum's stuff and yeah and you know, and I was hoping so she knitted, like um, two shawls for my eldest son and I haven't been able to find them for.

Speaker 1: 12:29

But when my grandson was born, but, um, I was hoping that they were still up there and they weren't anywhere in the loft. So I was sad and I was really angry at myself for that, because I thought, well, I've given them away. Sad and I was really angry at myself for that because I thought, right, I've given them away somewhere. Yeah, I have no recollection of where I've given them away to or how there is any chance of getting them back, um and that. But I kind of just didn't go with that. I got a bit pissy at John, but I didn't really do anything with it.

Speaker 1: 12:57

And then this week I don't know whether anybody's seen it, but have you watched the Kate Garraway stuff about her husband? I haven't seen it yet, I'm going to, okay. So I watched, I recorded it and I thought, right, I'm going to sit down and I watched that. I watched that Wednesday and I knew it wouldn't make me cry, but it made me angry and it made me cry and actually I think it was just I watching that actually helped me release, yeah, that from for the anger and the sadness I was feeling about, yeah, the shawls for my mum rather than yeah, but I mean I was angry for her also, um, and and the whole system. But but it was. It was a way of releasing that rather than steep keeping it stuck down.

Speaker 2: 13:40

It's funny, isn't it? Things do, I think the universe does chuck it there. You know, if, if we don't listen to our bodies and we, you know, and we don't let out the things that we should be at our bodies or universe, or whatever we'll, we'll kick ass. Yeah, it will, because we need to, we. We so need to look after ourselves more, be that emotionally or physically, you know, because you get one body exactly, isn't it you?

Speaker 1: 14:12

know how good are we taking after generally? Honestly, I mean, I I'm one of the worst culprits for looking after my body, but I think how you don't ever think about the vehicle that you're in, do you? No because that's all it is. Yeah, and it is just a vehicle for you to live this human experience, but you don't think about how you look after it, what you do to it, what you don't do to it.

Speaker 2: 14:39

No, we probably look after our cars better than we look after our bodies for ourselves, not just the body, the mind, as well as a whole. I'm sure, or you know, some people might look after their house more than they look at their actual body.

Speaker 1: 14:57

Yeah, the thing that you live in until you. I know it just doesn't make any sense, does it?

Speaker 2: 15:03

but we do and we think that it's okay to go. Oh, oh yeah, I won't feel that emotion. I just I'm not comfortable with that. I'll just bury that down there, or? Or I've got that pain, oh well, I won't listen to that.

Speaker 1: 15:16

It's like no, I know, but, like you say, but we, there is so much programming about how that's you know being programmed out of us for like centuries, isn't it? You know that we don't listen to that and absolutely you know some wonderful people have got the answer and and everything that we're not taught, that we have the answers within us a lot of the time no, no, because even with pain, we look externally to take that away, don't we?

Speaker 2: 15:48

yeah, whereas actually. Well, why is that pain there?

Speaker 1: 15:52

this is it. What have you done? How can you sort that out without you know?

Speaker 2: 15:57

let's just pop a pill instead yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 16:02

but that's it, isn't it? Because then that's it. That is now the norm, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 16:05

yeah, yeah, and mentally as well, because you know I get, there is medication that you know for some conditions that people do need. Yeah, definitely mentally, but I think there's not enough time spent with people to actually look at it. And and is it, is it not as deep as that?

Speaker 1: 16:31

that could be solved, I completely, without giving because they're not, like you say, people aren't given the time in a gp surgery, are they? No, then they're not given that time. They, you know people aren't given the time in a GP surgery, are they? No, they're not given that time, you know. They're not given the time and explanation to work out what they can and can't do for themselves, or they're not given the chance to go and talk to somebody, are they?

Speaker 2: 16:53

But even on a personal level we have to take responsibility for that. Gosh, yes, without you know, depending on GPs and things, things to do that we don't do that for ourselves and for each other, do we? No, we don't do it for ourselves and a lot of the time in this sort of busy, busy world, we don't give each other time either no, I don't think we do, really, do we?

Speaker 1: 17:17

no, I don't think that there is that sitting and just having a talk and, you know, having a whinge or a rant or whatever it is we need to do.

Speaker 2: 17:27

There's something really to be said about just being able to sit with somebody and just pour out your thoughts and feelings, isn't it, and be okay with that, and then and the other people, the other person just being okay with that and sitting and listening.

Speaker 1: 17:46

I don't like to say that the art of listening is a really I think. I think we also have the thoughts that we need to fix that person. So we can't just sit and listen to you, can't just sit and listen to somebody talk or rant or be whatever they want to be, without trying to find a solution for them, to give them sympathy, rather than just sit there and just be, just be there because that's all that, everything is, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 18:39

yes, all those things that that person, whether it is like ranting or talking or crying or whatever it is, it's okay. Yeah, and by letting it out, that's all part of the process, and that's the biggest part of the process, because it's like the beginning, letting it out rather than suppressing it yeah, and I think that that's we.

Speaker 1: 19:02

We need to be able to foster that and and be comfortable the person that's sitting and listening be comfortable with whatever they say, however they say it, without that need to fix or make it better because people aren't broken.

Speaker 1: 19:18

No, it's very normal, yeah, to be in those feelings or have those feelings yes, and I think you know we, yeah, we just need to. And I think, what, if you allow somebody to go through that process, then actually they naturally feel better after they've done that, absolutely, and generally most people have got the answer anyway. Oh, they just need to talk it out for them to work out that they've got the answer, and how many times do you do this how many times, even when I don't know.

Speaker 2: 19:49

Tell you at home, maybe you, you you've lost something, aren't you? And the minute you scream, oh, where the fuck is it? It's like, oh, there it is. Yeah, it's really funny, but we keep going over and, and even if we've got things going on, isn't it? We go over and over, yeah, over in our head. We're awake all night going over and over and over it in our head, and the next day you, just you know, I bring you and go, and then you go. Oh, actually, I only need to do this, don't I? So you're, you're so right.

Speaker 1: 20:23

The answers are always there they are within us, yeah, except we don't give our of our head the space, no, to be able to come up with that no and actually getting all the shit other shit that's in the way out allows that answer to come up yeah and most people don't want you to fix them no that you would.

Speaker 1: 20:45

You know, on a personal level, I'd much rather fix myself. I don't want any of us to do it. Thanks, because I don't control freaking me, but I don't think most people don't. They just want you to listen.

Speaker 2: 20:56

Yeah there's a whole bunch of needs met in just being listened to, isn't there?

Speaker 1: 21:03

yes, definitely yeah. I think you know again that art is being lost, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 21:10

you know, yeah, we really do have to go back to being human beings, don't we? Yeah, stop all this doing.

Speaker 1: 21:17

Definitely stop all this doing. But you know, and everything's so readily available, isn't it? You know, just be, just be who you are in that moment. Yeah, just be who you want to be in that moment, and if that's being a miserable cow, be a miserable cow in that moment. Do you know what I mean? It means don't stay there.

Speaker 2: 21:39

You don't have to stay there, you don't have to and you wouldn't want to stay there, would you but there are some times when that's just how it is, isn't it? Life doesn't have to be, and life will never be perfect all the time. We don't have to be perfect all the time and the minute we can go.

Speaker 2: 21:54

Do you know what? I'm having a bad day, and that's okay. Yeah, I'm gonna have a bad day. I'm gonna get under my blanket, I'm gonna cry if I need to, I'm gonna have 10 cups of tea and then just let it process itself. And that's the thing. We don't allow these things to process. You know, with emotions and things and feelings, we don't allow those things to just just process yeah, process them and let them go, because they'll work their way through them.

Speaker 1: 22:25

Yeah, you know. Yeah, if you need to eat all your kids easter eggs before sunday, just go and do it. I'm so glad I've not got kids at home anymore. I'm about to replace them twice by now. I would have done.

Speaker 2: 22:44

I'm so glad I've not got them at home anymore, but I bet you've done that before and then you've beaten yourself up. Oh my good god you have no idea.

Speaker 1: 22:53

You're pinching something. You're stealing. You're taking candy from children. Oh my good God, you have no idea. You're pinching something A you've pinched something else. You're stealing. You're taking candy from children. You're an awful mother, I'm an awful mother. Then you're an awful fat mother bitch because you've just eaten that chocolate. And then you're a guilty fat mother bitch because you've eaten that chocolate. Oh yeah, it could go on, and on, and on, and on, which is why I'm glad they're not home anymore and I don't buy Easter eggs for them. I was tempted to buy myself one the other day, though, when I went in.

Speaker 2: 23:23

Well, if you wanted one, then you should have done Do you know how much that is £6.50? Well, do you know what? That is a biggie because it is ridiculous and actually they're six pound fifty. Fifty p of that is chocolate. The rest of the six quid is the bloody package.

Speaker 1: 23:42

Exactly honestly, I'm paying for the privilege of it being dairy free and gluten free. I'm not paying six pound fifty for I could get 10 bars of chocolate for that.

Speaker 2: 23:51

But even the blue blooming, even the normal milk chocolate and stuff. They're crazy money and actually if you melted that down it's probably one chunk of bloody yorkie in it.

Speaker 1: 24:01

Well, that's it like hardly anything and it's not as thick as it used to be. Remember when we you couldn't hardly break them.

Speaker 2: 24:08

No did you?

Speaker 1: 24:09

you had to stamp on it yeah, now they're as flimsy as fuck. Now what's the point in having that? Yeah, and I don't like all that plastic and cardboard, it's just not necessary, is it?

Speaker 2: 24:21

no, no, but that's it. There's so much packaging. They're crazy, crazy money they are. But then what people do is they go. I'm not, I'm not buying an easter egg because it's a waste of money. I'll give them money that's see to me, that's not what it's all about. Or I'll buy them a present or like no, just be okay with going now. They're too old for an easter egg now or something. They don't need it. But you don't have to give them 10 quid then no, see we. So we go all through these processes in our heads. Don't have to give them 10 quid, then no, so we go all through these processes in our heads, don't we? Of what we should be doing and we've got to step back to being okay with what we're okay with that's, it isn't it?

Speaker 1: 25:07

I've not bought my eldest and my daughter-in-law Easter eggs. No, I just spent the whole fucking day baking yesterday and stressing the shit out of myself. Doing that when you needed to be resting, when I needed to be, because she's a bit sorry for herself, I am. I've been really sorry for myself. It's not pathetic, it's okay to feel sorry for yourself I thought I was getting better and then yeah you're not getting better because you're rested.

Speaker 2: 25:31

No, no, it's been stupid, so we've just had a whole conversation about this exactly and she's done fuck all of this this week, when she should have been resting and stopped I should, yeah, because she didn't feel very well. She, I mean she, yes, exactly when this podcast comes out, I'd like you to sit and listen to it just as a reminder.

Speaker 1: 26:05

Oh shit, that's what I said. Okay, mm-hmm, kick up the arse, but it is, isn't it? But that's the thing, isn't it? We all need that.

Speaker 2: 26:12

Kick up the arse yeah and we're happy to do them.

Speaker 1: 26:17

She's certainly bloody happy to do it. I tell you honestly, she's happy to kick my ass at any time. She feels like absolutely that's funny. But yeah, you say we just.

Speaker 2: 26:29

But like you say we don't listen, do we no, we don't, we obviously don't, and we really need to start to. We really need to look after ourselves without any sort of, without then attaching any other sorts of emotions to that, because that's what we're doing it we won't deal with one emotion, but by not dealing with that one emotion, then we attach 10 others. Yeah, like, is there actually any sense in any of that?

Speaker 1: 26:56

that's what I was just thinking there's no logical sense in that is that if you sat and you say you've just said that out loud, so if you sit and think about that, that's a really dumb ass thing to do but don't we all do it?

Speaker 2: 27:10

yes, we all do it. It in some sort of scenario. We all do that because there's attachments there to what we've been programmed to think we should be doing, or we should be feeling or whatever in that circumstance. So we think, oh, I really shouldn't feel like that, so I'll just tuck that away and I won't. Or, you know, I really should be looking after myself, but I won't. Or just, you know, because my mum used to say carry on, come on, push through it this reminds me of them and we don't.

Speaker 2: 27:53

But then when we don't do it, we don't look after ourselves emotionally, physically, whatever it is then we beat ourselves up through other bits, like you were just saying about eating easter eggs. That's it, isn't it? It's all right to attach a load of other crap to it. Oh, it's just stupid, isn't it? It's a relentless circle.

Speaker 1: 28:14

Yeah, it just goes round and round and round, doesn't it? Yeah, you just made me do what you said about you know, like, oh, it's fine, you'll just like brush it off or whatever. So in my day job I see people for aromatherapy and range of movement stretches and stuff. Aromatherapy and range of movement stretches and stuff. Well, I see a person that I've seen for the past eight or nine years spine, high level spinal cord injury, um, so we're talking c3, c4, um, and they joke all the time that their dad, if their dad was still alive, they'd tell him to work it off. Yeah, I was like not sure you can work that off, not sure that's going to quite work, but yeah, my dad would tell me to, just if he saw me in this state.

Speaker 2: 29:13

He'd just tell me to work it off. Well, we all you know our sort of age. We come from a whole generation that did not deal with emotions at any time. You're talking about the wall aren't you?

Speaker 1: 29:25

do you know what I mean? Where you yeah, you shoved that down, do? I often think about that. So my dad was in the war, so my dad served 22 years in the army and I often think he never told me any of the shitty. And he must have seen some shit. I don't think most of them do. He would tell me the times he got pissed and did stupid things and you can find picture. I've got pictures of him dressed up as women and doing all sorts of random stuff, um, but I actually have got pictures of him in africa and burma. But he would never tell you. He never told you what he saw. He never told you what he did it's too painful?

Speaker 2: 30:03

um, yes, and they were never. They were never taught how to deal with all that.

Speaker 1: 30:07

No, they no get on with it, that's it, and you get on with it. Back in world war one, you know, if you had like now, it would be ptsd and stuff like that. You were seen as a deserter, yeah, and you'd get shot or you'd get put in an institution and never let black people back out again, exactly Because not only could you not deal with it, nobody around you could deal with that either no.

Speaker 2: 30:33

I mean look how many women would get locked in an institution for being menopausal. Yeah, exactly isn't it?

Speaker 1: 30:42

And actually that hasn't stopped to this day, and that's where the term hysteria comes from. Oh really, yeah, hist for like, obviously for womb stuff. So, yeah, hysteria, yeah, we get the blame, as usual. That's what says it all, doesn't it? Here we go.

Speaker 2: 31:03

This is where we now stop menopause. Though, bloody the first three letters, there aren't they.

Speaker 1: 31:07

Yeah, except that's what I mean. Tells you something, something we learned, an interesting fact this week oh, you're gonna say about friday the 13th oh no, but oh no, that's a good fact, but but men only have a 24 hour hormonal cycle. Yes, that was interesting, which is why they forget stuff and we can hold on for it for like 20 years, 20 years and bring it back up again just when we're feeling really hormonal, because our cycle is 28 days, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 31:39

Yeah, I think, then it's been that long.

Speaker 1: 31:44

Yeah, I've meant it's 24 hours yeah, which is why they yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:48

Yeah, that was really interesting.

Speaker 1: 31:50

Yeah, hours, yeah, which is why they yeah. Yeah, that was really interesting. Yeah, and the nine to five working day was around their 24 hour testosterone cycle.

Speaker 2: 31:58

Yeah, see, it's been all about men for far too long. This is where we start sleeping patriarchal, getting on our goddess.

Speaker 1: 32:09

I was gonna say this is where we get on it and here we go. But it's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, and how? I think? Yeah, but friday the 13th was really good as well, yeah, so so it was the goddess freya, yeah, was what named the friday.

Speaker 2: 32:33

And then there's 13 cycles for women. Bleed cycles again in a year, yeah, um. And then because of the male patriarchy yeah, I can never say that word Against the strength of women. It's on Friday the 13th when the witches were burnt, wasn't it?

Speaker 1: 32:58

So it was Friday. The 13th Fridays were when the goddess was worshipped. That's right.

Speaker 2: 33:04

Fridays were always goddess worshipped.

Speaker 1: 33:07

So Friday the 13th was extra special because it was the 13th and obviously that that links into 13th. So, yeah, that's that's why.

Speaker 2: 33:17

That's why the church decided because, yeah, that's, it was when the church started, wasn't it? Yeah, there was almost like too much power, yeah, in that whole female worship, yeah, on that day. So to then to take that, that power away, they would burn the witches.

Speaker 1: 33:34

On friday, the 13th and also they would. They would say that it was an unlucky day, yeah, yeah, and stuff like that. So yeah, it's really interesting, yes, so yes, we need to rise into feminine, we need to get the tea.

Speaker 2: 33:50

Yes, we've been, uh. As females, we've been suppressed for far too long so it's time to let us out.

Speaker 1: 33:57

I think it is, I think it is and I think that that's good for men and for women. Oh, absolutely yeah, because you've got to think we've got men and we've got feminine and masculine energy in both of us. So then you know and that's exactly it.

Speaker 2: 34:13

That's what we've got to allow out, isn't it? We've got to, you know, as a female, accept that there's that masculine feminine energy. As a male, accept that there's that masculine feminine energy and be okay with both of those. Yes, and then be okay with both, that masculine and feminine, in whatever way working together we have. And if you look at the oh, I'm gonna get my soapbox now. If you look at the state of the bloody world, isn't it about time we just gotta start being nice to each other?

Speaker 2: 34:48

accepting each other, in whatever realm that other person is, whatever gender, whatever culture, whatever.

Speaker 1: 34:57

We've got to start bringing it together, otherwise I have to, but there is an aspect that I think that that will change. It has to change it, because you can't do so. Something else we learned this week as well is that Pluto's just gone into Aquarius, so it's now the agent of Aquarius. Pluto hasn't been in this Aquarius sign for over 200 years 230, 240, 250, something like that. The last time Pluto was in Aquarius energy. We had the French Revolution. We had the American Revolution Interesting, isn't it? Henry VIII broke away from the church, yeah, so there was major, major revolutions and things that went on. Industrial Revolution, there were major things that went on and changed the aspect of the coming years. If we're in that now, I don't think it's got any other choice but to change it's got.

Speaker 2: 35:57

Well, it has to change, doesn't it? Yeah, you, I can't think it's not working. No, you know, you look at just our own country and then you look at countries across the world. It's not working. It's not working. Change, we've got to change. Yeah, like you say, and we've got's not working?

Speaker 1: 36:10

change, we've got to change yeah, like you say, and we've got to embrace those emotions, we've got to embrace, letting them the feminine, the masculine in this, but to embrace the differences exactly we learned. We need to learn to accept ourselves and each other for who we are.

Speaker 2: 36:26

We have to accept and be responsible for ourselves. Yeah, and then everything else will click in. Yeah, we've got to be okay with ourselves. Yes, that's the bottom line. Yeah, and it starts looking after yourself and being okay with it.

Speaker 1: 36:42

It does I think on that like no. I think that's a big note to leave on. It's a bit like a bit political, a bit political, a bit serious, a bit so foxy, apart from Easter eggs eating, but apart from that.

Speaker 2: 36:56

So let's go down and make the cupboard Right. Let's go and find someone Nice. Let's do this. We'll see you later, lovelies.

Speaker 1: 37:03

Bye, oops can't find the.