Heartfelt Musings on Authentic Living and Embracing Our Quirks

As the clouds gather, bringing April's signature unpredictability, we can't help but marvel at how we adjust our umbrellas and attitudes with little fuss. Yet, when it comes to the quirks and imperfections that pepper our own selves, that same adaptability tends to elude us. In our latest podcast episode, we wade through the whims of British weather, using it as a metaphor for the often tumultuous journey toward self-acceptance. It's a candid exploration of why we're charmed by the eccentricities in others, but so critical of our own, and how a sprinkle of self-compassion could be the game-changer we've all been waiting for.

Ever looked in the mirror and wished you could treat the person staring back at you with the kindness you reserve for your dearest friend? We've all been there. Through personal stories and shared experiences, this episode peels back the layers of self-acceptance, revealing the sometimes uncomfortable truth of what it means to truly embrace our flaws. We talk about opening our hearts to the parts of ourselves we're quick to hide away, and why starting with a softer, more loving approach could lead to profound changes in how we interact with the world.

As we wrap up our heart-to-heart, we touch on the beauty of living authentically and the courage it takes to let go of searching for a grand purpose. Our chat takes a turn towards the playful as we conjure up images of a bubbling cauldron and the mischief it represents—don't worry, no one's getting turned into a toad! Instead, we leave you with a light-hearted reminder to take a moment, enjoy the rest of your day, and remember that the most extraordinary part of life is often just being your true self. Join us again for more conversations that promise to stir the soul (and maybe just tickle your funny bone).

Chapters

• 0:00 Acceptance of Weather and Self
• 6:01 The Journey to Self-Acceptance
• 20:43 Acceptance and Embracing Change
• 34:44 Stay Out of the Pot

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:43

afternoon afternoon that's what I was just checking, I was like is it yes?

Speaker 2: 0:50

actually, and the sun's shining I know, the miracle begins oh, I hope it bloody stays in there I know it's a bit like one day sun, one day rain, one day sun, one day rain. One day sun, one day rain. We'd just do it a bit more sun, to be honest, couldn't we? We have only tipped into May, haven't we? I know, I think we forget that old saying April showers. So we had showers, didn't we? Oh yeah, there was plenty of them, yeah yeah, I think we forget sometimes that it is showering in April. But I was just thinking. That leads us on nicely so we need to accept that April showers exist?

Speaker 2: 1:33

we do, don't we? We do. Let's bring the good old British weather into this we need to accept that rain is just weather yes, it's funny, isn't it really?

Speaker 2: 1:44

do you know what I was actually thinking this yesterday when I was out walking the dog, with acceptance and how we do that with the weather, really don't we? Or maybe some people don't? But, like, when you get up in the morning, yeah, you look out the window and it's pissing down the rain. Yeah, you go, oh great, yeah, but then you just accept that it's raining and go right, except that I have to wear this today, I have to put my coat on, I have to wear those shoes. So we sort of do do it in a sense, don't we?

Speaker 1: 2:19

without realizing sometimes yeah, because I think everybody's aware that the weather is out of your control, isn't it exactly?

Speaker 2: 2:27

so there, absolutely fuck all we can do about it. No, yeah, so we have to accept it yes. We might not like it no granted, but we have to accept it and go okay, I was going to wear my sandals today, but it's raining, so I have to wear my shoes. So we have to make changes. Yeah, but we accept it's gonna rain today. It's gonna rain all day, yeah so just get on with it.

Speaker 1: 2:52

Yeah, like you say, nobody questions. That do they?

Speaker 2: 2:55

no, I mean there might be people out there to do this, but you don't go right. That's it, fuck it. It's raining. I'm not going out today, I'm not going to work, I'm not going to do the deep, not really well, no, not, you know, there might be a few that do, but in general, well, no, you have to like suck it up and get on with it, don't you?

Speaker 1: 3:11

because you can't do anything about it.

Speaker 2: 3:13

Like you said, it's out of your control. So it's funny how there are things in life that we do that what do?

Speaker 2: 3:21

you mean, we've been young like a mummy's soapbox there. But no, it's funny, isn't it? It's like. So why can't we accept things about ourselves? Because I'll tell you what else we do. Sorry, I'm bogging here. Go on, go. I'm liking this word is like we talk about quirks, don't't we? And flaws and imperfections and all that. In general, we accept them in other people. Oh God, yes, because we'll go. No, that's the part of who you are, that's what makes you who you are, and all that. Look in the fricking mirror, innit. We don't ever accept it for ourselves, but we do for other people and we'll go out of our way to go. No, that's who you are, because it is.

Speaker 1: 4:16

Yeah, it is. We're much more accepting of other people than we are of ourselves.

Speaker 2: 4:24

Which is horrible to ourselves.

Speaker 1: 4:25

Yes, ourselves, which is horrible to ourselves. Yes, because we don't see it as an imperfection or a flaw or as a bad thing, in other people? No, but we see it as a bad thing in ourselves yeah, we do yeah, you are right. Definitely, people are much more accepting of other people we're family ourselves, aren't we?

Speaker 1: 4:46

yeah, but it's really odd, like you say, isn't it? I suppose the the whole weather thing, I think we do, because you're brought up accepting that you can do sod all about the weather. You do. You don't think about it, no, you do it. That's the way it's got to be you, there's nothing you can do about it. But we're not bought up. Are we to accept ourselves as we are?

Speaker 2: 5:09

No, we're not, are we?

Speaker 1: 5:11

You know, and not with any you know intention by our parents to make us feel like that, but that's you know that whole programming thing is. But, like you say, but we're usually generally most people are bought up to be tolerant of other people in the way they are.

Speaker 2: 5:27

Yeah, yeah, and I don't think we do that to be polite, we do that genuinely. Oh god, yes, there's something quirky about something we tend to love it in other people. We love it when we see that in other people or that comes out in other people.

Speaker 1: 5:46

We love that yes, I think, I think there's something liberating to see people being themselves, yeah, and people accepting themselves, for them, for themselves, and like you say, I think, I think that's a heartwarming thing to see in other people. But, like you say, for you to actually do it yourself, it's a whole different ball game isn't it, and it's really really difficult it is really hard yeah and I don't think, I don't think people really really get it.

Speaker 2: 6:21

No, it's a very big word. Acceptance, yes. Is that just because we make it big? We obviously do. If I look at that, and I look at it as a big word, it's obviously something that I feel is big to do. Accept, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 6:45

But I think acceptance is a big thing to do. I think the acceptance of the bits you don't really like and the bits you see as flaws or imperfections are the worst bits to try and accept that they exist, yeah, but the most liberating if you do it oh, absolutely um, so yeah, I think that acceptance that and I there's. I think there is a difference between acceptance and knowing that it's there yes, yes yes, so, except interesting, yeah, you are right.

Speaker 1: 7:34

So we all know we have certain flaws and we are. We have certain ways or quirks or anything like that, or a certain side of us we don't show to other people generally, to other people. We all know that exists. But true in my head, true acceptance, is a different thing yeah, no, you're right, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 2: 7:53

It's a whole difference between, like you say, knowing it's there and accepting it's there, yeah, and embrace it and not have.

Speaker 1: 8:01

I think that knowing it there is there comes with guilt and shame, especially for the bits that you don't like showing other people. Yeah, when you've got a level of acceptance there, you're not feeling shilty or game. I like that word shilty and you might be game for anything, oh God, you might not feel guilt or shame, but you don't feel guilt and shame for those parts of them and you're willing to be open about those parts of you that you don't show anybody.

Speaker 1: 8:48

that, for me, is the difference yeah, no, you're right definitely and it, but it's getting to that point that you don't have guilt and shame, because guilt is such a bitch and shame and shame, shame ourselves for things that we really don't need to.

Speaker 2: 9:04

I feel guilty for things we really don't need to, and we feel guilty for things we really don't need to because they only come from other people but that's it, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 9:15

they come from other people. You know, like we said it hundreds of times before the whole, don't be angry part of us, but anger's in all of us. But then you have a guilt and a shame if you feel angry, so you can't. You know, you know that part of you's there, but you, you struggle to accept that because it comes with guilt and shame and that's what we also have to take responsibility for, because other people don't make us feel anything.

Speaker 2: 9:43

No, it's what we feel, yeah, ourselves, and we can make you feel no, but again it's that.

Speaker 1: 9:49

How are you feeling at that time when those words are spoken isn't it? Yeah, so I think it's really it. I think acceptance is hard to do. I think it takes a lot of work and a lot of talking to realize that you know those parts of you that you don't really want to accept are yeah, are there, but that you shouldn't have guilt and shame about them.

Speaker 2: 10:17

Not at all see we talk about, don't we like embracing and acceptance, and I think embracing almost feels like a softer word, whether that is because you relate an embrace to a hug, because that's an embrace. So I think if we're starting this journey, yeah, then maybe it would be a good idea to start with embracing. I like that because you can sort of hug yourself with it a bit. Yes, embrace it. It doesn't feel quite as harsh, no, as having to accept it. So I think if we could start the journey and think, okay, I'll embrace that part of me, yes, and when I see it there or I fear bringing it forward I just give it a bit of a hug, yeah, and bring it out, and that feels a lot gentler, a lot softer, a lot more doable, definitely so maybe we should start with an embrace.

Speaker 2: 11:18

I think embracing is a good term, and then we can lead it. The more we embrace it, the more then we feel comfortable with it, the more then, hopefully, we can bring it out and accept it.

Speaker 1: 11:32

I think, I think in starting to embrace, that would naturally lead to that acceptance. Yeah, but, like you say, the embracing, like you say, it gives it a kind it. For me, in my head, embracing is giving you kindness to yourself. Yeah, and that's what we need to do, that's what we say all the time, isn't it? That whole self-care, that be kind to yourself?

Speaker 2: 11:55

so, yeah, so it is, like you say, swapping it again for that whole language thing, using the word embrace rather than the word accept so if you're on a journey of like thinking, right, I'm going to start to accept things about myself, but you feel that that's really hard, then let's try.

Speaker 1: 12:13

Go with embracing yeah because I think it gives you a little bit more of a leeway, doesn't it? It feels like you say, it feels like you're just starting to do that and it feels like that thing.

Speaker 2: 12:24

You're sort of holding it by the hand, aren't you, and putting your arm around its shoulder and going come on, come out, come up to play.

Speaker 1: 12:32

But I think that's a really good way of looking at it. It's almost like you are doing that. You know that part of you, you know, because often that's like inner child work, isn't it? It is that a part of you, Like you say, you take the hand and you go okay, this is what. Yeah this is what I need to do. Yeah, I'll help you. I'm here for you. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's a beautiful way of doing it, I think, yeah I just think it's.

Speaker 2: 13:01

I just think it's a shame if people just fear that word, if people just fear that word, fear what it means, and then don't do the work. No, because it is so rewarding when we can just accept things. Be that things about yourself, be that other people, other things yeah, there's a whole. The world would be a better place, genuinely it would. Sorry there's a lot of words linked with acceptance, isn't there?

Speaker 1: 13:35

yeah, judgments and all that sort of thing, and we need to dispel those I think that those, I think, embracing things that have happened to us, like, say, like, say whether that's people, whether that's moments in time that have happened to us, like, say, like, say whether that's people, whether that's moments in time that have happened to us, or you know whether things have happened to us at the hands of other people, yes, acceptance becomes a massive thing then because you know there's a whole load of other stuff attached to that, but I can't remember where I was going with that. But I think it's a hard journey, it is a hard thing and I think there's also a level, especially when you're dealing with events that have happened that have involved other people. There's a level of if I accept that then I forgive people, and I think there's a.

Speaker 2: 14:29

I think also think there's a crossover between acceptance and forgiveness and people can't accept stuff because that that would involve forgiving yeah, and I think people get very crossed over with forgiving because I think they always think it's on and I think this is a programming thing a little bit for religions like forgiving people. But forgiveness isn't about other people. Forgiveness starts with you, yeah, and when we can forgive ourselves, that's where we can accept things, yes, and move on from them, yeah, and when we can forgive ourselves, that's where we can accept things, yes, and move on from them. We can't change them or anything like that, and we can't rub them out, that you know these things happened, in whatever capacity that is. But if we can put some of our own forgiveness on ourselves, yes, and and forget about forgiving other people, that that that's irrelevant in a sense.

Speaker 1: 15:30

Yeah, um, because the acceptance will put that in a place and it will, and I think also with acceptance and forgiveness and all that becomes that and that whole thing about responsibility of the part you played in anything, and that's the hard bit and people really struggle with that, really struggle, and especially with things that happen to people.

Speaker 1: 15:59

Yeah, people really struggle that and again, again, the difference between and people really struggle this because I've had conversations with other people about the difference of saying, okay, I accept responsibility for my part in that event, that happened and they're going, but you're blaming yourself. I was like, ah no no there's a difference between me sitting here, going oh, it's all my fault, I'm blaming myself, that's down to me and me actually going okay, this happened because yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:32

I take responsibility for my actions in those times not and I'm not blaming myself more than now, but I take responsibility for that action at that time and the way I was at that time, yeah, which is different than I am now. Yeah, but actually, once you do that again, that's really liberating oh huge, yeah, and but again, people struggle with that. Well, if you're, if you're accepting responsibility, it's you're blaming. No, two different things, no it's.

Speaker 2: 17:08

Yeah, it's funny how well I think, we automatically jump to that, don't we? Yep, because that's something that's been a little bit ingrained in us yes, yeah, that somebody needs to be at fault yes, yeah, and we're never saying that that's the case. No, there's a, there's a huge difference, and that goes back also with, like, you know what we tell ourselves, isn't it? Oh god, yeah, when we have to really look in the mirror and go is that actually the truth?

Speaker 1: 17:44

but that's it, and I think that that's the thing, isn't it is. We talk about this stuff all the time, but actually it's all intertwined yes, it is it's not right. We're going to get you to do this thing and then that means, because you've done that thing, you can go on to this thing and you can go on to that thing, and then, by the time you've finished our six pillars, you're all going to be hunky-dory. In actual fact, it can intertwine everywhere which way you go.

Speaker 2: 18:13

Oh and haven't? We found that with stuff, with content and things that we've been trying to write, and we go, right, let's do something about this. And then we go, yeah, but if you do that about that, and then that's intertwined with that, and that's intertwined with that, and that's a bit of that, and it's really hard.

Speaker 1: 18:31

It is really hard and I think it is and, like you say, it's all interlinked. It all leads, the acceptance and language and the stories we tell ourselves and our inner bitch and emotions, and it's like one whole fucking melting pot. Do you know why?

Speaker 2: 18:49

it's all just like mixed into one and that's why it makes it so difficult, because it's not like, right, I'm gonna work on that. No, because when you start working on that, you're pulling in a little bit all this and you're like, but now I've got to look at that and I've got to take responsibility for that. And oh, look what I said that. Oh, my god, look.

Speaker 1: 19:12

I told myself, and that voice is going and the thing is like you say and I think what people also think that is, once you've done something, that's the end of it. No, but it's not, is it? I wish it was so, do I? No, it's not. I'm sure I've written a post somewhere, but it's never ending.

Speaker 1: 19:34

Even when you think it is, even when you think I've dealt with that, and then you get to a step 's almost like that that next conscious level takes you to the next level of that yeah situation, yeah, and it's like oh, and that's the thing, and I think, and I also think sometimes and I I'm sure it's I don't know it's the same for everybody, but I know it is for me that you work on a certain part and you think, okay, I'm all it's. I don't know it's the same for everybody, but I know it is for me that you work on a certain part and you think, okay, I'm all right with that and and that's fine and, to be honest, it might be a really small thing, but actually that one comes back and back again, but actually something quite traumatic you cannot get through actually. Yeah, relatively quick. Do you know what I mean? That's fine, okay, yeah, I accept that's fine. Yeah, that's all right, but no one little fucker in the head. Yeah, it's, but like you say we've talked about it before in it the whole onion peeling thing, in it you take off one of the hair, thinking, oh, I've done that. No, here we go again and it is. But I think it's accepting and I think that's where a lot of people need to start is accept that it's a constantly evolving process yes it's always going to happen, and I think life is very much like that.

Speaker 2: 20:58

Oh god, yeah, because I think I I got hung up on that years and years ago, like, well, let's have a therapist, what's my therapist? What is my therapist? I need to find my therapist, and actually I don't know where it was one day. It's just like purpose is simply just to live your life, but we get so hung up on everything outside that we and it's all you know like the now isn't it. But it is so true, yeah, and it is like just be who you are now, that's it, and everything will just kick into place. Everything will, you know, will start to be how it should be. But we don't. We're always like searching and I think sometimes we just need to, like you said, accept this is us and sit with it and be okay with it.

Speaker 1: 22:01

Yeah, and I'm the biggest failure. Enough failure, but it was a big word, wasn't it? I suck at work. Great, I'm going to be in a car with her for the next two hours. In a minute, jesus, we're going to have a hell of a conversation now. Oh fuck, that was definitely a Freudian slip of the tongue that will now be dissected to within an inch of its life.

Speaker 2: 22:23

There's always a reason. These things come out your mouth.

Speaker 1: 22:28

But my biggest thing is and it's just made me think because it came up in a moon circle I did with Kirsty last night but are you doing the work to make yourself better and fix yourself? Or are you doing the work because you accept yourself, are you are, but you're working to empower yourself even more, kind of thing. And that really resonated with me because I am a fixer I need and you tell me off all the time for doing it. She's a fixer-upper, yeah. Are you doing that work to fix yourself? And generally, like you say, I've done that work to fix myself because I've not accepted where I am.

Speaker 2: 23:15

You've not accepted. You're not broken, no, exactly.

Speaker 1: 23:20

But that, so for me, isn't it? It, even with all that stuff, yeah, that is that acceptance, like you've just said, of being you as you are in this given moment now, and that's all we need.

Speaker 2: 23:35

It's all we need. There's, you know, there's a past we can't change. Well, we can't change what happened. We can change the way we look at it, yes, and acceptance will bring that, yes, which will bring, then bring you a lot of peace and calm physically, mentally, whatever. Yeah, um, and we don't know what's ahead. Well, no, nobody does do they. Yeah, so we can't worry about that. We can't be doing what we're going to be doing what you know. Yes, we can. We can look forward to a certain extent with um, enthusiasm, excitement, what you know, and that sort of thing, because we don't, you don't, ever want to think what might not. You know, it might finish in an hour. It's not generally the point, you know, might not be an hour, sorry. So, yeah, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but that's all we need to is just accept us now, that's it, and I think purpose changes as well.

Speaker 2: 24:42

Oh, god yeah, we're all on this planet for some sort of purpose. Do we actually need to know what that purpose is, or do we just need to live life and accept ourselves and accept, then you know, other people, to make it a nice place to be and a nice place to live and a nice life and enjoy what we, what we have?

Speaker 1: 25:09

I think I, I think we all need to live like that. I just don't think we trust. I think trust comes into that.

Speaker 2: 25:17

That we don't trust is that because we don't trust ourselves.

Speaker 1: 25:21

I think there's a lot of trust, yeah and I yeah, and I think there's also a thing in and whatever your belief system is whether you trust in that, in that like say that higher purpose are we, are we all here for a reason you know, and whether we just trust that, like, like you say, not everybody has a massive lightning bolt with angels and God talking to them, do they? No, and in fact, probably most people don't. Most people don't.

Speaker 1: 25:52

You know, Not disinherited though that's fine, if you've had that, tell us all about it.

Speaker 2: 25:56

I'd love to hear it Amazing.

Speaker 1: 25:58

Great, I'd love to hear it, but not everybody has that. No, great I'd love to hear it, but not everybody has that. No, and I think and it's another thing I think that's been programmed out of us is listening to ourselves and trusting ourselves, yeah, that we have the answers, but we don't. We again it's that whole looking externally out of you and accepting that you have the answers within you.

Speaker 2: 26:25

I think, in a way, that the world we don't stop at the moment. No, and it's in those moments when you stop, is when you'll hear those things, is when you feel those things.

Speaker 1: 26:40

Yes.

Speaker 2: 26:41

Because if you're busy, doey, doey, doey, busy, busy, busy, it's going to almost pass you by because you'll miss it. Yes, and I think you know, and there are. I'm a great believer in this life. You know, if we miss it it'll come back around either way, good or bad. Yeah, don't know you know, but?

Speaker 2: 27:03

but we say good, we say good and bad again, isn't it? Yeah, you know that, those, those things that we perceive as bad at the time, how many times in later life do we go do? Actually, if that hadn't have happened, this wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 1: 27:21

No, this is it. Yeah, pr. What do people say? You know they get made redundant. Think, oh my like you say life's over, but then it works out that that was the best thing that ever happened to them, yeah, time and time, but again it's, it's accepting and trusting that that bigger picture yes is there and that you will.

Speaker 1: 27:44

You know, yeah, and again, if, if you want to go back, you know, if you do that on a manifestation terms, then then that will come forward, isn't it? But is it? All you see is the bad stuff. All you're going to get shown is the bad stuff. So you go back to that whole. What you put out there. You get back, don't you and the whole RAS and all that kind of thing? So it is, don't you and the whole ras and all that kind of thing.

Speaker 2: 28:12

So it is like you say it's just all interlinked.

Speaker 1: 28:14

Yeah, it is, it's, it's incredible yeah, but I think for me definitely that embracing and that acceptance is the key to the is to the life-changing bit to making it easier.

Speaker 2: 28:27

It definitely is, and I think if you can't, if you can't get yourself to a stage at the moment where you can accept but but there are things that you need to sort of work on or change or whatever it is, then just start with embracing it because I just think that's a little bit of a softer path, definitely to start with, and it's better to start, yeah, because then what you'll do is you'll open up that path and you will, like we were saying, then, when you're working on it, you will see more, you will feel more and you will get to a place where you can accept yeah, and, like you say, you know it's just a gentle way of doing it, but I think the key is actually starting that process of of doing that this time, because I think there's a lot of things we don't realize, we don't accept that.

Speaker 2: 29:19

That was certainly the case for me, and now I suddenly like, oh my god, like you know, I react to things whereas actually there's no need to no, but there has to be some sort of acceptance there.

Speaker 1: 29:32

Yeah, and there's a responsibility for that, yeah, this is it, isn't it. And I think, like you say, even though taking responsibility for something, again, that's liberating because you accept that that happened and you played your part in that.

Speaker 2: 29:55

But actually, with that acceptance become you forgive yourself and I think forgiving yourself is a massive yeah, massive thing we it goes back to we have to change the language, yes, and we have to change how we see it, yeah, and not just how we've been programmed, like we're saying good and bad, yeah, this is it. What is good and bad?

Speaker 1: 30:16

and that's the thing, isn't it like? But it's true, isn't it? I know, you know, even if you get down to the nuts and bolts of what most people would see bad, say, I watch a lot of criminal minds, which just means I end up watching weird Americans murdering each other all the time in weird and wonderful ways. I'd love to know whose mind came up with this stuff. I'm telling you, because either half of this stuff is true and this has happened or somebody's got the most vivid imagination. But it when, when you watch that, and especially when it comes to serial killers and that it was something that they said the other day. But it all comes down and again, this is not something we talk about a lot, but you know that need of murdering somebody else fulfills a need in that person. Now, most people aren't generally born like that way. Generally, yeah, but so, but for them that might be normal.

Speaker 2: 31:23

Yeah, and the way they do it fulfills a need. Yes, and. And then the whole trail of a serial killer feels a need.

Speaker 1: 31:33

Yeah, that's it, and it's fulfilling a need. Yeah, so for them, that person in that time, that doesn't feel bad. Yeah, it feels good to them because it's fulfilling a need. Can I just put something in here? I'm going to spend the next two hours in the I should be doing a med podcast on my own and we will be talking about serial murderers leave that thought with you guys, please love it.

Speaker 1: 32:18

People are like, oh my god, they're going to be waiting for another two weeks going shit. Is she going to be there for an hour? But in their head they're not doing anything bad no no to the rest of us. They are they're doing the worst thing ever, yeah, but so again, that whole good and bad is subjective and into your programming, into everything else, isn't?

Speaker 2: 32:49

it, yeah, and like you said earlier, with the angry thing. For all our lives we've been taught that angry is bad. It's not. It's an emotion we all have and it's an emotion we need because otherwise we we'd all be dead. Because, you know, it's like we need that anger this is it, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 33:11

but if somebody's brought up in a very angry household, yeah, that's, that's the norm.

Speaker 2: 33:16

That's the norm to them, yeah, so it's really I don't this is why we need the acceptance, because you never know exactly what is on that other side of the door, what is in that head, what is what's going through somebody's mind, what's going through their life. So you can't that's the word. You know what I?

Speaker 1: 33:41

mean, but you can't, can't, you know, you know. I've seen memes with it and that quote isn't it. You know, you never know what somebody else is going through. So always be kind. Yeah, because you don't. Yeah, because if somebody's a twat to you, they may have some major shit going on in their lives they've not meant to be to you, they might just be a twat well they could. There are a bit one or two out there.

Speaker 2: 34:07

But in general, yeah, in general. And the thing is, when people are twats and then they're treated as twats, they become twats. Yeah, because it becomes that. My mum always used to say you call a village idiot, village idiot enough times and that's what they become. Yeah, and that is so true because then they believe but that's all their worth, that's the worth, exactly that yeah, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 34:33

so? You call somebody a twat enough times they're going to believe they're a twat. Yeah, and their behavior will perpetuate that. Yeah, yeah. It all goes round around that bloody gurt. Melt in pot it absolutely now. Visions of a massive cauldron now must be stirring here.

Speaker 2: 34:53

As long as the two of us are stirring, that's fine. As long as I'm not in the pot, we're alright. Would I put you in the pot?

Speaker 1: 35:01

I can't believe you would think that of me. Would I put you in the pot?

Speaker 2: 35:07

there might be times, you know there might be times, you know, there might be times.

Speaker 1: 35:14

Should we leave these lovely folks here? Now? He's given them like loads of information to go on. They're like Blew their brains. I think, yeah, I've got that emoji with its brain. Oh, I love that emoji like that emoji with its brain. Oh, I love that emoji. Right, you, lovely lot, have a fabulous rest of your sunday and we will speak to you soon. Bye.