Laughter and Learnings from a Year of us talking Bollux n Bull

Have you ever caught yourself saving that bottle of champagne for just the "right" moment, or waiting for a milestone to let loose and celebrate? That's precisely what we're challenging in our latest heart-to-heart, as we toast to a year of authentic conversations and the lessons learned from staying true to our unscripted selves. We laugh over our editing gaffes and wonder if you've heard those sneaky silences we sometimes miss. With a mix of pride and amazement, we share the realization that showing up every two weeks has transformed us in ways we never expected, fostering a sense of commitment and community that continues to surprise us.

In the spirit of authenticity, we delve into the potency of genuine face-to-face dialogue—not just as a means of communication, but as a soul-nourishing practice. These exchanges have not only deepened our friendship but have also taught us to embrace our differences with open hearts. And as we ponder the fleeting nature of life, we invite you to reconsider everyday moments with a lens of gratitude, living each day with the zest and appreciation typically reserved for life's grandest celebrations. Join us on this journey of reflection, laughter, and maybe even a few life-altering insights.

Chapters

• 0:00 One Year of Podcasting Celebrations
• 5:00 Importance of Honest Conversations
• 19:32 Celebrate Each Day With Gratitude

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:43

I don't know. Do you think people wonder where we are when we leave that little gap? Well, there are. I'm not quite Confession time. Okay, there have been a couple that I've forgotten to delete that bit before I upload it. Do you think people out there have gone hello, where the fuck are they? Where are they? They've forgotten to put. Is there anybody there? Take mute off. Oh, look, now've forgotten to put. Is there anybody there? Take mute off? Oh, look, now they remember to put mute back on the five seconds silent. I'm supposed to delete it. I don't always fricking remember.

Speaker 1: 1:19

That's what you get for leaving me in charge of editing this podcast. Well, you wouldn't want to leave me in charge, so, trust me, you're the better option. Right, me in, george. So, trust me, you're the better option. Things are bad if I'm the better fucking option, by the way. Happy birthday to us. Happy birthday to us. Happy birthday to us.

Speaker 1: 1:43

Yay, we've been going a year, so we're going to do a bit of a celebratory. I have to say that really slowly. Podcast a year, fucking year. Can you believe we were doing this shit for a year? Do you think? Sometimes it feels like 10 to the bit back there. I swear to god they must be. Oh, my god, it's only been a year. I swear you lot have been chatting shit for a lot longer than that. Yeah, good, isn't it? I can't believe it's a year, to be honest. No, lisa, can I? No, I'm not going to lie. I can't believe we've been this consistent for a whole fucking year. Do you know what? I think we need to give ourselves a big bag of credit. You know, I think we do, because we turned up every fortnight by the skin of our teeth sometimes, but that's bloody good going for us, that's really good going for us. Yeah, I know, I'm impressed with that credit in the bag where it's duty. Yeah, yeah, amazing, yeah, it's been good. So how have you felt about the podcast? I love it. That's good. Yeah, I love it. I think we've all been always been the sitting chatty, haven't we? But I think this has been like more thoughtful chat and it's just been. It's brought up a lot of things, hasn't it that that? Yes, what? What you guys out there don't realize is then that we go on to explore, and sometimes that's been for ourselves. Yes, definitely hasn't it? Yeah, which has been really good. It, you know, brings up things. So, yeah, it's been, it's been fun, it's been interesting.

Speaker 1: 3:28

It has Lots of words I could put in the bucket. Yeah, like you, isn't it? Like you say, to be honest, if you've not guessed already, we wing most of this. You know we come up with a Most. I think there's a three little word, three little words. That's not an exaggeration, it's not. Or a story. No, it's not.

Speaker 1: 3:54

Literally, I rock up to her house and she goes, what we doing today? And I go, uh, let's just do it about that, shall we off? We go, and that's a big thing for me because I like to do a little bit of prep. Yeah, I have pushed you out of your comfort zone. It's been really good for me. Just like, okay, we're doing this, literally like I have minutes to go, okay, yeah, yeah. So fair play to you. You need even more credit for rocking up and going with that. When I first like poked the idea at you, you were like rocking up, what's she talking about now? Oh, my God, what are we going to do now? And there, it's been brilliant. Yeah, absolutely brilliant. I have loved it. Big credit to you for thinking about it. Well, it's just, I think of lots of shit all the time. You know that it just is. Yep, she does. Some of it should never see the light of day. Oh, most of it should. But just like you're saying it that we've often go on and have that conversation after we've done the podcast, aren't we? Because, like you say, because we're winging it, it it's just, it is just literally us two having a chat in your, in your spare room.

Speaker 1: 5:00

I think it's such a good thing to do and it would be such good practice for people to do, because when we sort of have lost the habit of conversation yeah, face to face a little bit, haven't we, which is not, you know, that's not always a bad thing. I'm not going, yeah, I'm not a bit in my day, um, but I think when you can sit with somebody and have a conversation about something and just talk, it can bring up the weirdest things, the most amazing things. It can take you down avenues where you go fuck, I never thought about it that way, yeah, so it's such a good thing to do if you can do it, and I think it is, and I think just being open and honest and and that whole acceptance that when somebody says something to you, that might feel a little bit on the edge or a little bit triggering or or any of those, those words you want to use. That actually that conversation, it's in that conversation, it's come from a place of love, but actually when you, you do it and then you go and think about it, it, like you say, it, evokes so lot and it and it becomes a really healing and therapeutic thing. Yeah, and we are a perfect example in a sense that we are very, very different, yeah, and we have very different opinions. Yeah, and I think it's good to be able to sit and have a discussion with both having different opinions. Yes, but bringing that together with an acceptance of okay, I might not agree with that or I might not have that opinion, but let's explore that. Yeah, and it's really healthy.

Speaker 1: 6:54

I, I think it is, I think it's really really healthy, yeah, so, yeah, for us I don't know the past years it's been, it's been therapy for us doing this oh, certainly, um, some of them don't like the word journey, journey, adventure. Yeah, because it, you know, and there are some that it's it's taken us down some sort of little avenues, but it's also taken us down some real bigger, bigger rabbit holes that we that we ventured into and and just purely from the conversations which maybe they would have come up at some time. But I don't know, yeah, I don't know, like you say, would we have had half the conversations that we've had because we're sitting here doing a podcast, because we've, in a sense, we've allocated that 30 minutes, haven't we? Yeah, so it's like you're not going to do anything else, you're not going to go anywhere else, you're sat in one place, so you allocate that whole 30 minutes to that. Yeah, so, in a way, I suppose it's like being present in this 30 minutes that we give it, yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1: 8:08

Is, isn't it? Like you say, we're just rocking up and we're just being present in that moment. Like you say, because there's no prep work. No, we just rock off and go okay, let's just talk, and whatever comes out of our mouths comes out of our mouths. So you're getting that authenticity and that realness. And you know, and that's the way it is, it is just literally us two having a chat and there's no interruptions. No, you know, because there isn't no Phone's off, door's shut. This is it, isn't it? Like you say, anybody else that's in the house knows that that's what we're doing, so there is no interruptions. The only interruption you're likely to get is Izzy having a bath occasionally, but other than that, like you say, phones aren't in the room, there's like there's nothing. There is there, no, so maybe it is. Maybe it is that allocation of that space just to to be in that.

Speaker 1: 9:05

Yeah, in that moment, yeah, yeah, it's been really good and I think we've grown more to accept each other for the differences that we have, which has been good, isn't it definitely? Through this whole process, yeah, so I think it sort of shines a light on on that. Oh gosh, yeah, without a doubt, and we don't, we don't always agree on everything, no, and, but we don't, we don't disagree either, because we've learned to. Okay, so lynn thinks like that, that's fine. I don't think like that, but that's fine, but I think that's. I've loved that part of it and we sort of sometimes we trigger each other, sometimes we push each other, sometimes we you know we, what's the word? We, we play with it. Yeah, okay, what you're thinking and that's it. You know it's been.

Speaker 1: 10:07

Yeah, I think it's been a real journey and an adventure for us, personally, definitely, and I think, like you say, our friendship and relationship has developed. Because we do this? Yeah, because we have to have open and honest conversations. Yeah, we have to, because otherwise it just wouldn't work. No, and sometimes you've got to lay it out, haven't you? Oh, yeah, and go, okay, you know, and sometimes you have to go. Well, I don't agree with you at all. Yeah, however, yeah, or whatever, and then we bring it together, we, you know, but, touch wood, we've not fallen out about it yet. I mean, it's been amazing.

Speaker 1: 10:53

I think it has, but I don't, I'm not sure, entirely sure we would. I just think there's such a level of acceptance from both of us, yeah, level of acceptance from both of us, yeah, of how both of us are, that I don't think there's ever likely. You know, and even you know, when I've had the odd moment where I've got to the stage, it was like just because, or, fuck off tracy, okay, okay, but again there would. There wouldn't be any offense to that. You just go. All right, all right, I've pushed it a bit to the limit. Now I'll leave her alone. I've pushed the buttons a little bit too much, now, you know, but there isn't, is there? Yeah, so I don't think I can't, I, yeah, I can't ever see it. No, no, it's brilliant, but, yeah, like you say, and that's through us sitting here and doing that.

Speaker 1: 11:49

It is it's purely that allocation of that 30 minutes and then just that, yeah, it's a huge acceptance. Yeah, and I think that's the key thing. Key thing isn't it? I, but you know, except? And then there's slightly coffee. Um, no, it's not even coffee. So I'm talking about my ass. Is tea verbal to get that? Yeah, it's not even proper tea, it's for 10 tea. Um, I can't see, I shouldn't have drunk that now because I've completely lost my train of thought.

Speaker 1: 12:29

It is just that acceptance of each other and I think that, like you say, you know we've talked about acceptance this month already but actually that I think that's the massive thing. I think it's massive in in so much, yeah, so much. And I think we, we can learn a lot from acceptance and I think we can find an awful lot of peace from it as well. Completely, you know it is a big word, oh yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:01

And, like you say, having open and honest conversations and I don't think and this is coming from, you know, a reformed people pleaser and nobody that would tell anybody the truth. That's not in the sense that I lied to everybody all the time but I was scared to tell people how I really felt or the truth to things. Truthful with yourself yeah rubbish. Never truthful with myself either. So I know that's hard for a lot of people to have those honest conversations, but actually for me that's been really, really beneficial.

Speaker 1: 13:39

And it only needs to start with the little things. Yeah, doesn't have to be the massive things, it could be just 10 minute conversations. It could be just 10 minutes, five minutes, just to yourself, accepting how you're feeling in that moment and just looking at it. Yeah, and that's it. And if people tell you the truth, it's not, and it's people, somebody that tells you the truth that you love and respect. They're not doing it to be hurtful. They're telling the truth to you for love.

Speaker 1: 14:13

So actually, when somebody says that things to you, that that you might kind of step back at, you need to sit with that. You need to sit and look at that because they're truthful, honest moments. Yeah, and that's why it it stings a bit. Yeah, because deep down you know this is, but, like you say, you're trying to hide that or pretend it. It's not there or, yeah, it doesn't exist, or people are saying it to be hurtful, but they're not. They're saying that to be hurtful, but they're not. They're saying that to be with love and the best intentions for you, for you to look at it and to look at what your your part in all of that is.

Speaker 1: 14:54

Yeah, yeah, there's a, there's a huge part of responsibility that that, if we can learn to take for ourselves, that makes things a lot easier as well. Oh god, yeah, but we're not brought up into in a next in a, in a society that takes responsibility. So, oh no, we learn a lot of um blame. It's a massive blame game. Yeah, it becomes a huge default, doesn't it, unfortunately? Yeah, it does, but you can take the responsibility and feel okay with that.

Speaker 1: 15:35

I think there's a lot to be said about just pausing yeah, you know so many times during the day, just push that pause button just for a second before any reaction comes in, and just give it a thought. Why am I feeling like that? Yeah, but again, isn't it? That's not a an instant thing that we're taught or shown, is it? You know? It's like the whole bag of what we talk about, isn't it? Stories, language, emotions, boundaries, everything hats we wear, but we do have to just pause and go. Why am I feeling that? Yeah, just sit with it for a second, I think. I think that's the key in it.

Speaker 1: 16:21

The main key is that you've got to take it back to yourself all the time. Yeah, because it's always about how you're feeling and how you are. You know, and we don't, we think it's everybody else, but it's always about how you're feeling, where we're sat on that top. Yeah, yeah, because one day, somebody will say something and you react one way, and another day, somebody will say something and you react one way, and some another day somebody will say exactly the same thing and you react a different way. Yeah, and that's the thing, is it? But, like you say, it's how on, how you're feeling in there, yeah, or what's going on. So, yeah, it's an interesting thing. Conversations pause. Yeah, you do need to just take that moment, don't you? Yeah, and we so need to take a moment in in life itself. Yeah, it's so important.

Speaker 1: 17:14

Our own self-care is such an important thing and celebrate ourselves. Why do we not do that? We're so fun, we're so more accepting of other people. We were talking about this the other day, weren't we? And I think we did it mentioned it in the podcast, didn't we Just about how, you know, people have these quirky parts of them and we always go. I love it. That's part of who you are. We never say that about ourselves. No, we absolutely destroy ourselves for any little quirk or flaw or whatever it is. We're celebrating the fact that we've been on air for like a year. Yeah, but we did. We actually sat here and gave ourselves credit. But how many people would sit and do that? How many people would sit and then go? Actually, I'm patting myself on the back because I managed to do that. I managed to do that. I'm giving myself credit for that.

Speaker 1: 18:08

Oh, people, can't people find it so hard. I mean, you compliment somebody. What do they do? Throw it back at you, yeah, oh, that's just an old thing. I've got, I've had this. I just can't. I just can't handle it. No, thank you, I'll take that. Yeah, this is it. But if you'd go to them, you look like a pile of shit today, wouldn't they? They'd take that. They'd go. Yeah, I know, I really do. Yeah, we are absolutely barmy. It's crazy. And then they'd take that for years and years and go Lynsey, I look like a pile of shit. Yeah, but they'll never remember the compliment you gave? No, not in a million years.

Speaker 1: 18:52

We need to celebrate ourselves, do you? Because we're worth celebrating, oh God, aren't we? So why shouldn't we? That's not. That doesn't have to be in an egotistic way. We have to. We have to love ourselves and love who we are, what we do. Why not? Well, yeah, why not? There is no reason. Why not, is there? Apart from what that shit in the head tells you, apart from all the things that we attach to it. We like attachment. Funny, you'll celebrate your birthday, but we won't actually celebrate that you're alive.

Speaker 1: 19:32

No, no, you made it to like you know, there's so much we can celebrate every single day. Well, there is, isn't it? Yeah, we should, because every day is a gift that we woke up. Yeah, like you say, gifts that's not afforded to lots of people all the time, especially when you get to our age. Yeah, today's a bonus. Of course, I'm not at that fucking stage yet we're on bonus point. We're not on bonus point, yet we are because yeah, you're right, like, not waking up tomorrow is not age related. No, it's not in in any shape or form now, it's not. No, you're right, it's not. So every single day is is a gift. Yeah, it is that we should celebrate.

Speaker 1: 20:19

Yeah, you know, put your best pants on every single day. Yeah, save them for the best day. I've got any best pants left? No, I haven't actually either. Okay, no, you've got a whole like matching bra and nipper set that you leave for best? No, no need for five. None of my underwear matches.

Speaker 1: 20:40

But we do have these like things that we save for special occasions. But every day, isn't it? Just go out there every day like it's a special occasion. It's a special occasion because you woke the fuck up this morning. Yes, I'm going to a funeral tomorrow and we're all. I didn't know that. You know that tomorrow, we will all have that conversation, won't we? Oh, we shouldn't do it till we're at weddings or funerals, till we get together. Oh, you've got to break. There'll be lots of those conversations tomorrow, won't there? Yes, and do you do it? No, we don't do it every single time, and every single time, we'll have this conversation, it's like, and we still don't do it every single time, and every single time, we'll have this conversation, it's like, and we still don't do it. It's mad, isn't it? Like you say you wait for a funeral to have that conversation and then still do jack shit about it after.

Speaker 1: 21:35

I know we're so bad to ourselves. We really really are so bad. There we are. It's mad, isn't it? Yeah, it's mad, it's absolute madness. We're absolutely. We need the good telling to, but it's true. I think we do. I think we need reminding of that sometimes. Actually, we don't need reminding sometimes. We need reminding every day. Yeah, I mean the right kick up the ass. But actually, like you say, no matter how bad it is and things I know in life can't be bad the fact that you woke up is that everything else is a bonus. And you know we all have shit days. We absolutely do, and we'd be worth a fortune if we could say and take that away. But we can't, because shit happens and it's gonna keep happening, whether you like it or not. That's the reality of it. So embrace those shit times, but that's it just part of the package. But we're still here. But we still want a quick fix and we still want to believe that that shit's never going to go away and it will be better if that shit stops. No, it didn't stop. I think that's also a key. People need to know that life still happens. Life still happens, but if you choose to look at it in a different way, it changes it, so that shit doesn't stick. No, and this is the difficult part, isn't it? People don't want to accept we have a choice about how we feel about things. Yes, we do, and if we feel differently about things, things will change. Yes, so you know, and I totally get that, when things are hard, they're hard, and that is really difficult. You know, to have a smile when you're right at the bottom of the bucket, it is Granted, like you say it is, isn't it? Yeah, but you know, if you even just look back through time, what some people have been through and it's just that that power of their own mind and to keep a smile, a good thought or whatever, that that gets them through their mind is an incredible thing. Yeah, so last weekend we did a rapid hypnosis course. Oh man, just what you realize the mind is capable of, and in a quick, in a quick format. Yeah, you know it. Yeah, we, like you say, you know, most people know that. But you know what we know about the mind is is minimal compared to what we know about the rest of the human physique and and everything else, and obviously scientists can't do anything with a human mind because they can't see it, they can't feel it, they can't touch it, can they? But they'll still tell you it's there. Yeah, it still exists and we all know it still exists, but nobody can see it or touch it or feel it or dissect it and try and work out what's going on. Um, but it is the most incredible thing and it's the most powerful thing. Yeah, but we have some control over that. We do. You know. It also has quite a lot of control. Oh well, for most people, it's controlling their lives. 95, we can change that, yeah, yeah, and we can make a difference with it. That as well, yeah, yeah, it's, uh, we just love it. But, yeah, it is amazing. It's an. It is a beautiful thing, but, yeah, we had some really interesting conversations and some really interesting things, isn't it? So? The power of the mind and, uh, and what they did with you in it, oh my god, just incredible. Yeah, that was just immense. In just what? Two minutes? Yeah, I think that. I think it was probably, yeah, three or four minutes at the most. Yeah, and for you to get rid of that phobia that, yeah, something that I've carried from when? Very well, as long as I can remember and yeah, and even before before they did that, your language was I am, I am, I am, yeah. So you were like reinforcing that and like you say, unconsciously, you were saying that, oh my God, absolutely you were. But within, like you say, five minutes, tops, yeah, gone. Yeah, it's weird, really weird. Yeah, but that is the power of it. Yeah, like you say that and I now know that's gone, yeah, so I'm now reinforcing it the other way yeah, because I absolutely saw that disappear and and and it's like. But now I'm reinforcing it, like, yeah, I don't, are you happy to tell them what they? Yeah, I mean, I've had a I don't even know, sometimes I don't quite know how to explain it because needles, blood, anything like that. I mean I've spent life going. I am a fainter. I mean, what thing to put after those two strong words? I am, isn't it? But I've done that because I tend to faint literally at everything and I don't even need to see it, even just thinking about it or somebody talking about it, and I can be out cold. It's absolutely crazy and I've been, I've been like that all my life and I always said, and I've probably said this to you when I was younger it was a real fear because I'm like, oh, I'm thinking to myself, oh, my god, I'm gonna faint, and I did every single time, but I never said that out loud. So inside I'm having an absolute battle with myself oh, I'm gonna faint, I'm gonna faint, I'm gonna faint, I'm gonna faint. But too scared to say that out loud because there's another fear of what people will think, say whatever. Well, as you get older, you know what it's like. You can't just say what it is. And so it's got easier, because then, if I've been in situations like I had to give blood or whatever, or I mean I couldn't even take my kids, my own children, to the dentist, it's that bad. Um, I mean I did. I always remember the first time my daughter was in the chair. My, my son, is sat next to me and he is only little going. Mum, are you all right? You've gone really white. It's like, it's like she's crying, she needs it. I'm like, I know, but I can't go there because I'm sweating and it's like in my head I'm going, I'm gonna faint. So that's how bad it was. It's only in there from check-up. How did you ever give birth to children? I, I don't know. Everybody used to say that to me. I was that bad. I fainted, um, during sex education class in school. I only got to the dog having puppies. As far as I got I was out cold. Can you imagine, and that probably reinforced everything what 15? Can you imagine? Embarrassment, fainting in sex education in your whole year because we were there was the whole year. Like can you imagine, you know, I don't know whether any of you listening that went to school you can remember that that happened. I'd go and set it aside anyway. Yeah. So, and as I got older, then it's like if I went anywhere and I'd have blood or anything, I'd go what? You know, I am a fainter, I'm a fainter, so you'll have to lie me down, do whatever, and I'd still be in a sweat. I mean, I've fainted in many a waiting room, even walking out. It's crazy. So so, yeah, that that whole all my life, just reinforcing that. I wish actually we'd taken a closer picture. I wish because then on Saturday I'm sat in hypnosis with a that was a bloody long needle, huge needle, with a huge needle stuck in, put in my through my skin in my hand and I'm sat there watching it like, yeah, no, no trouble at all. I said to you, didn't I? I felt a little bit of warmth, yeah, when he was sort of taking it out of the packet and the sterile packet, but I knew it was going to be right and he's like, and watch this. And I watched it as he put it through my skin and it sat in my skin. It's like weirdest thing ever. It was amazing to watch. But, like you're saying this, because I couldn't even watch. No, because he did like it on somebody else first, didn't he? As, like, showing her. They were just going to show us, they weren't going to do it on anybody. Well, I couldn't look. No, I couldn't look. And I'm thinking I go into that panic state like, oh shit, I can't look because I'll faint. Yeah, I start go, I start going into turmoil. I started going into turmoil inside thinking, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, I can't look, I can't look. But and then then I'm in the jail. Yeah, that's it. The next thing we're in the chair and that's it. It was just incredible. But just that confirmation of how powerful that mind is for that to be flipped in that short space. You're not talking years of therapy for you to get over the fact that you're a fainter and you don't like needles. It must be. I mean, we'll post it in, um, we'll post it on the page when the group but, um, yeah, I have had that forever and it has absolutely controlled my life for myself, with me, with the kids. You know, I always remember one day, my like, my daughter fell and ripped her hand and my brother had to take her to hospital. I couldn't like crazy. Yeah, this is a horrendous fear. It's like with the dentist, because you know, because it involves everything, doesn't it? You know needles and whatnot. But yeah, even people talking, sometimes I'm stood there thinking, oh my god, oh my god, please don't talk, please don't say anymore, because I'll be on the floor. But now the weirdest thing is right and like, although, like, I sat there with that, with that needle in my hand, and I haven't obviously come across anything as yet to sort of, but it's like I have a knowing now that it doesn't, it's not really. Yeah, it's really strange. It's like I know now that's never going to be an issue again. It's really. I can't even explain it. It's so weird. It's like now I just know that that's, that's not an issue. So it's amazing, isn't it? Just in that short space of time, to flip what your mind thinks and to flip that belief that long and a long-held belief, yeah, but we always say, don't we, like the, the mind doesn't know the difference between what's real and what's real. So, so, and, and that's how I feel now. It's really strange, it's really hard to explain, but it's like. Now it's my thinking is well, yeah, I'm okay with that now and that's it. So that's changed. 50 years of thinking and believing, yeah, in five minutes, yeah, and now, and that only happened, like last week, yeah, in the space of less than a week. That's not even bothering you, no, it's really weird. So that, just it, just. I think that's just ultimate proof on how you can change how you view things. Yeah, yeah, all the time, and all the time I like I'm gonna confirm that now, aren't I, because I'm saying it now like that's not an issue anymore? No, it's not. So, like you're saying, your natural words have gone from I'm a fainter yeah, to well, it's not an issue anymore. I don't understand what the problem is. It's not an issue. It's really weird. So it's just incredible how it's almost so quickly. If I were to say, now I'm a fainter. It's like if you're not telling the truth, see, this is it's your head's now not telling you you're not telling the truth. It's really, I'll tell you. It's really strange. It was such such an amazing experience, but it's. It's really strange how that sort of feels in my thoughts now. Yeah, because it's going against 50 years of thinking, yeah, yeah, it's incredible and that just proves just how incredibly powerful our minds are. Yeah, and how you can change everything if you do the work and have the desire. And it is just being aware of what you're saying, because you're just confirming it to yourself all the time. I am yeah. Two little words the language again, yeah. Yeah, they're going a little worse. Their language, again, yeah, and that's why we talk about all of it, because all of it incorporated is what makes the difference all of it incorporated and just weaving your way in and out through all of it. Yeah, it is a weaving process, it is a, it's a, you know. Yeah, it's not a one size fits all kind of thing, and what works for one may not be is that whole unique thing of just working and being aware, aware, what is just awareness, isn't it? I think that's. I think that's your first starting point. For me, I think that's always your first being aware. Yeah, because once you're away, you can then do something about it. Yeah, yeah, and and I think the hypnotherapy itself is it's just a tool, isn't it? It's just another tool to help people on the, on the start of that, yeah, to just change things, just change. It's another tool in what that mind is thinking. Yeah, all it is. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, oh, there you go. That's us. That's us celebrating, talking where we've gone on, about the mind. And what a difference. This podcast if you've not noticed folks on our podcast, now there is a chat facility, so should you feel the need to be kind and leave us a little nice little chat? Oh, yeah, that would be nice, that would be amazing. 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