Zip Lining, helicopter rides and putting your big girl pants on!

What do a sunny Yorkshire holiday, a fear of flying, and the thrill of zip lining have in common? Find out as we recount our latest escapades, starting with an unexpected spell of good weather in typically rainy Yorkshire. The vast, stunning scenery of the Yorkshire Dales had us reminiscing about familiar landmarks and marveling at Yorkshire's sheer size compared to Somerset. You'll laugh along with us as we debate future vacation spots and stoke the flames of wanderlust.

Then we whisk you away to the charming allure of Greece, where short breaks trump long holidays, and the vibe is simply unmatched. But the journey isn't without its challenges. We'll candidly share our struggles with the fear of flying and our ambitious plans to conquer it—think helicopter rides and the world's longest, fastest zip line! June becomes a month of bravery and new experiences, where the mantra is to embrace the unknown and say "yes" more often.

The deeper roots of fear, especially the need for control and safety, come into focus as we explore cultural quirks and personal growth. You'll hear about our humorous approaches to overcoming fears and how shifting our mindset has made a world of difference. Finally, we reflect on the power of companionship and encouragement, recounting a challenging hike that turned into a rewarding adventure, thanks to a supportive group. Join us for a heartfelt and humorous look at facing fears and finding joy in new experiences.

Chapters

• 0:49 Catchup on Recent Holiday Travels
• 4:19 Planning Travel Adventures and Overcoming Fears
• 9:06 Overcoming Fear of Flying
• 20:21 Exploring Fears and Self-Confidence
• 34:36 Overcoming Challenges Through Support

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:49

afternoon, afternoon, it's mine. We do this silent bit so that when we edit we can like there's like a like noise. She's like saying I was like we're supposed to be doing the silent bit. Don't tell me, it started. I wasn't paying attention, so she's just been trying to hold in her laugh. Oh, dear, happy days, I'll be there, I'm all right. And you, yeah, I'm good. Oh, you're all right. You've been on your happy days, happy days, I'm alright. And you, yeah, I'm good.

Speaker 1: 1:30

You've been on your ollie bobs. I have been on my ollie bobs, haven't I for some, haven't I? I have been on my ollie bobs, I love it. Yeah, no, it was lovely, good, it was good, good, it was lovely. Lots of driving, but beautiful, beautiful scenery, nice up there. I'm not, I've only been, we've only been. I've only been up there once. Well, we're not far from where we went.

Speaker 1: 1:54

Literally that was like two or three towns down, because I was driving up after me saying to everybody oh no, I've never been this far north, I know right, she shows how much fucking stupid my memory is. And then we're driving along this road and I'm thinking, jesus, this looks a bit familiar. And then we got to this roundabout and there's the metal deer on the end of the roundabout and I was like, oh, I've definitely seen people. And then I went to John and I was like, oh, I have been this far and he's like what he's like, why would you not remember that? I remember going, big space, yeah, and I think it's a chance of you going round that range about a second time. No, but I was like, oh, I have been, it's like I just didn't. It's not that I didn't remember. Obviously I remember going, but we were there to see somebody.

Speaker 1: 2:53

So I and if you put me on a map and go where did you go in Yorkshire? I'd be going. I don't have a clue, but, yeah, beautiful stunning scenery out there. It was a place we went that we travelled through quite a couple of times to go to other places. It's a place it's called Hawes and it's just stunning. It's the Yorkshire Dales, absolutely beautiful. And we were so lucky. Why am I touching what we've been With the weather?

Speaker 1: 3:29

We only had one rainy day. Oh, that was nice, considering it's Yorkshire and it generally pisses down a lot out there, doesn't it? Yeah, um, yeah. So yeah, we were really lucky. So, yeah, it was lovely, very, it was. It was, but you can't see a whole lot of it.

Speaker 1: 3:44

I learned the knowledge. It's three times bigger yorkshire than good old somerset, is it? I think, then it's bloody big, isn't it? Yeah, that is big. We're bloody tiny in comparison. We're just way down here. Yeah, it's not enough room down this end of the country to make things, things big, is it? No, no, just gradually get smaller.

Speaker 1: 4:10

Not holiday for ages? Oh, holiday, that'd be good. Where would you go? Where would you like to go? I don't know, though.

Speaker 1: 4:19

I'm not very good with holidays. I'm not a holiday like I don't need to, you know, but people like need to go on holiday, or I like short breaks more so. So like like long weekends. Yeah, well, I'd go back to greece. I like greece, like to do a bit more greece. I would like to go back and do some more. Yeah, I liked it there. Yeah, there's something about a vibe in greece, so there's something about it. Yeah, there was. Yeah, our friends go. They go regularly, once or twice a year, to parts of Greece. Yeah, if I was going on a proper holiday, I think I'd probably like to go back there. That'd be nice.

Speaker 1: 4:59

Is there anywhere If you put your big girl pants on and not think about anything. Where you would like to go? Well, I'd like to go to New York, but it's just the flying that puts me off. And not think about anything where you would like to go Well, I'd like to go to New York. It's just the flying that puts me off. But I'm going to overcome that. I haven't got a fear of flying at all, I just like to throw up. It's about four hours and then I'm like, oh, let's be sick. So four hours is kind of your limit on a plane. Yeah, but I need to need to. So I need to do some hypno work on that. That would be good. Yeah, which I'm gonna do, because I've booked my helicopter ride.

Speaker 1: 5:38

Now, when did you book your helicopter ride? Uh, like last weekend, when I was a few days doing nothing. So, yes, I booked that. It's not until August because I won't get in before that. I booked the front seat. I was a bit like nobody else books the front seat. I thought let's book the front seat. I love having shimmy stuff. Oh my God, yeah, oh my god, yeah. Seriously, you do loads of great things this month, so, yeah, so I need to um work on that because I might be sick. No, you won't. We'll work on that before we get. I won't be. I'm not going to be, I'm not. I don't do trouble sick anymore, but it is something I have to work on a little bit.

Speaker 1: 6:29

Wow, yeah, so you're going up from the local airfield, dunkerswell. Oh man, yeah, I think it's a weekend, because they only do it mainly on weekends, so it's like a weekend one. How long are you up for? Oh, it's not very long. It's 12 miles, so they reckon it's only about 10 minutes. Yeah, about 100 miles an hour. Let's go down that fucking mountain in a month's time. See, that doesn't bother me. It's weird that I'm not I.

Speaker 1: 7:05

Yeah, for those of you who don't know, we're also doing the velocity, which is the longest and fastest zip work. Is it in the world? I don't. It's in the world. It's definitely in europe, if not the world, and it's like across a quarry and you, like you, go head first. It's very good, isn't it? Yeah, and and I'm a bit shitty with heights, but I'm not, no, it's weird. I'm excited about that one, but the helicopter ride gives me a little bit of butterflies. Oh, I can see that it's a lot further up than that zip wire. Yeah, but if you're travelling 100 miles an hour in a helicopter, it's a lot safer than in a flipping like canvas bag. Miles an hour in a helicopter, it's a lot safer than in a flipping like canvas bag.

Speaker 1: 7:52

Oh well, this is the month for being up for it, isn't it? We just heard it. We decided june was all about getting naked. And we're not doing it naked, so please don't panic, just metaphorically. We mean, it's just about getting out there, being yourself, stripping it off, yep, and healing back the fears, the doubts, and just doing stuff, just saying saying yes more than no. Yes, yes, I can do that, so we have, so we're going to. Well, that's july, so it's not july because we're doing this month. No, but we, we booked it this month, yeah, yeah, so we've done that. Oh God, I know. Yeah, so, ah.

Speaker 1: 8:35

So we figured, because we tell you lot to do this stuff all the time. We figure we better put our like, put your money where your mouth is, exactly, yeah, put our big girl pants on. Decide that we're going to start doing stuff that we said we were going to do. Yeah, well, my wonderful children bought these things for my birthday because I think there was a bit in there that come on, mother, you've reached the right. You do it you. You talk all this shit. Let's put some into practice.

Speaker 1: 9:06

And I happen to mention one day that, yeah, I should say yes more than no. That's like a red light and a green light on it. Yeah, either that they're just trying to kill me off, it might be that decent life insurance. They'll be very disappointed. You've not got a million quid in life insurance sat in the bank somewhere, not that I know of. Oh yeah, I can't let you do that on your own, can I? Honestly, I would be so gutted if I hadn't done that with you. I wouldn't. There's no way I can let you do that on your own.

Speaker 1: 9:48

It's gonna be hilarious, isn't it? Oh yeah, and we've booked you will see it, folks, because we've booked the little video things to video us. I said we booked the video and she went well, you've got to do that, haven't you? I said well, it's just going to be just like a whole stream of expletives. And she said I'll be disappointed if I don't fear at least one. I think there might be a few. Oh, my god, I think it is.

Speaker 1: 10:18

It's the whole fact that you go head first, isn't it? That's really weird. Yeah, like you say, lying down, you're in this little sort of on your belly hammock, isn't it? Yeah, it's not gonna feel like a hammock, it's gonna feel a bit more like a straight jacket, to be honest, and I'm just hoping that I've got one big enough for my arse to go into. What's the worst thing is? They said, the bigger you are, the bloody faster you go. So, oh, tracy's gonna see my ass and feet in front of her. I'm hacking it down there, screaming and having a jet in as I'm going down. Oh, it'll probably be over in like 30 seconds. I expect it will be. It'd be like probably two minutes and we're you're like, oh done, yeah, what was all that about exactly?

Speaker 1: 11:17

But we would have done it. We would have done it and we would have video evidence to say we've done it. Are you good with heights? Do you know what? I used to be? Really shitty with height, really shitty with heights.

Speaker 1: 11:28

You did that whole mind thing. Yeah, but when I did, like, say, went on one of the many courses that we've done over the years and parted with several thousand pounds over the years to try and make yourself better, yeah, yeah. So do you know what? I've never been brave enough to add up how much. We don't add it up. Let's not add it up. It's all worth it. We've spent it on ourselves. This is true. This is true. Been worth it. It has been worth it. But yeah, I don't have to just have to justify it. If I'm right, I was like I've just spent £2,000. We're terrible, I know, it's awful, isn't it? But yeah. So after I did that whole mind thing there in Bristol and I walked over the suspension bridge, I've kind of been all right since then, but that's all it is, isn't it? Because we're not born with these fears? No, no. So yeah, uh, yeah, I've kind of been all right and actually, in all honesty, a lot.

Speaker 1: 12:41

Since I've done a lot of the work and I've have a lot more acceptance of myself, a lot of my fears have have gone. It's funny, isn't it? I think and I always think I think as well. It's like because I used to get really panicky with heights, um, but now it's almost like I talk about it and go oh yeah, I've got a fear of heights. And then, but in the back of my mind, it's almost like this little voice it and go oh yeah, I've got a fear of heights. And then, but in the back of my mind it's almost like this little voice goes I don't think you have anymore. Yeah, it's funny, but you're so used to having it yes, that you automatically say it yes, whereas actually I think now that we reword things say you know, used to be like that or I don't, I don't, I'm not like that anymore and I think it does change how it is.

Speaker 1: 13:34

So definitely because I had a massive fear of flying. So that's why we never went. A massive fear of flying, you would never get me. And that's why, you know, we never, ever took our kids aboard, because I just wouldn't get on a plane. And the first plane journey we did was for one of John's nephew's engagements which was up in. So we were flying to Glasgow, we did Bristol to Glasgow and it was just me and him and literally he had to drag me on that plane, literally, and he's got a hold of my hand and it was in Bristol airport and at that point you had to walk we're talking donkeys. You had to walk across the runway, yeah, to get up. He literally had hold of my hand. He was get on the plane, get on the plane, get on the plane. You find, get on the plane. Literally it's funny.

Speaker 1: 14:22

Well, you know, online I was thinking what the fuck's that all about? What? Why do people get afraid of flying? Yeah, you're not afraid to get in a car or anything. Why? But this is it. See, the random thing is right.

Speaker 1: 14:37

So that was the first time I went on the plane. When I got, I didn't like the takeoff Because obviously it's quite back, isn't it? And then it made all sorts of noises. John, to go in fair play, you know, I'm sorry it wasn't going on there in silence. I'm thinking, fuck, sorry, she's on one today.

Speaker 1: 15:06

So he would explain that noise is because I was going to say the feet are coming up. It's not feet, is it? I guess that was a bit of a smaller plane, though as well. Yeah, it was like so the wheels are coming up, and then you'd see like the wings moving. So he would explain. I don't think that alleviated any fear, I just thought he was talking shit. What were you afraid of see? That's the thing.

Speaker 1: 15:37

Once I got up there, I loved it. I was like oh look, I can see the clouds and the fact that we were above the clouds. I love that. So it wasn't a height thing, it's a control thing. It's because I'm and it's always a it was a fear of if I get in a plane, it goes down, we're dying, and I think, because it was always where the kids were younger, this is going to sound really bad. I'm like shit. All I'm going to do is leave him with John. Yeah, but he's with you, he's superman. He's like do you know what I mean? So it was, I think.

Speaker 1: 16:17

I think if you break it down, it's that control, that you're not in control, whereas if you get in a car, you're not in control. In the car, no, you're right, you're not. And if somebody else is driving, you're not. But the chances are of you surviving are highly more probable than if you're going down in a plane. Yeah, but there's less plane crashes than there are cars, exactly, I know. So it's bollocks, yeah, but that's the thing it is, bollocks, isn't it? But the more I learned this stuff and the more I those, I learned more about myself and I, you know, and I didn't need to control everything. That fear has gone. You know, I did.

Speaker 1: 16:57

New Zealand about it's going to say you did? You did, and not once did I feel fearful about getting on a plane and not what. We, when we were coming back from New Zealand and we did that in one go we had like a break at Kuala Lumpur and we had really bad turbulence. Nobody broke their head or died, thankfully, yeah, but we had really bad turbulence for three hours over Iraq. I didn't flinch Now, not before. You'd have seen me vomiting and everything. But we had really bad turbulence for three hours over Iraq. I didn't flinch Now, not before. You'd have seen me vomiting and everything. But no, didn't flinch, didn't.

Speaker 1: 17:36

And now it doesn't bother me, it's the boredom that gets me now. Yeah, it's funny, isn't it? Yeah, I'm not afraid of flying, I just I get sick. Yeah, but I think a lot of that is mentally now, because I think to myself I'm gonna be sick. Oh, I'll do like a sit-up. Oh, you do four hours, then I'll be sick. Yeah, so I talked myself into it, that's it. So I just needed it. I'm gonna do a bit of hypno talk, yeah, and that's the thing, isn't it? Like you say, that's all it is now. Yeah, because if I put my wristbands on the funny little pressure points I've got, I won't be sick now because I've got my wristbands on. So, again, it's that psychological thing. Yeah, but I will be after four hours, even with your wristbands on. Yeah, because that's what I tell myself. Yeah, stupid, isn't it? So, yeah, just got changed and I know that's all it is, and I think with a lot of fears.

Speaker 1: 18:30

Sometimes it's just doing it. Our heads tell us we can't. And actually, if we just told our head to shut the hell up and just did it, because the subconscious wants to keep us safe, so doing things like that out of its safety zone, is going to find some excuse for you not to, isn't it? Yeah, don't do it because you know you're going to be sick. This is it, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 18:55

In the past, in my child days, I was probably sick three times in a car. I mean, any times I've been in a car or on a train or whatever. So it's all in the head. So, but it is, isn't it? Fears are, aren't they? Yeah, those folks you know, yeah, but it's just interesting how we carry them. Yeah, and we convince ourselves as well. Yeah, it's funny, yeah, and like saying, it's just, if you just gave yourself a talking to and go, I'm just going to do it and realize it's not as bad as you think it is.

Speaker 1: 19:31

Oh, we stop ourselves from doing so much with fear. It's crazy. I look back over my life and that's one I don't really have regrets because I think things happen and we do things and it's all part of the part of the journey. But there are things when I look back and thought, and I didn't do that because of some sort of fear, be that fear of stepping out, fear of what people would say, fear of just not having that confidence to feel like I could do it and, yeah, I've, there's a lot of those I think everybody must have. I'd like to show back and have in my head now what I had then to go well, I'll just do this. Yeah, exactly Because you do miss out on an awful lot just because of those silly fears.

Speaker 1: 20:21

Yeah, and, like you say, often those fears aren't. You know that fear of flying wasn't actually a fear of flying. No, no, this is it, isn't it? It's weird, it's always normally something else. Yeah, it's deeper in that. It's that control. You're not feeling safe in yourself, not that you don't trust the pilot. Like you say, flying is the safest form of transport that exists. Yeah, yeah, you know. Thought that exists. Yeah, yeah, you know, but yeah, it's.

Speaker 1: 20:51

It is really interesting, yeah, and I'm sure most people must. If they look back, they must have points where they go oh, if I just, you know, if I just pulled me pants up and just decided I was doing that, yeah, I think we can miss out on so much. Yeah, just because I'm something, that little voice starts something, doesn't it? And yeah, and we listen to it and it tells you crap, doesn't it? Yeah, tells you crap that you can't do that.

Speaker 1: 21:16

Or and it's interesting sometimes if you can go back to, like, the first time you felt that and what was that situation? I don't know now, was I a kid in that car who hadn't eaten properly that day and was probably sat doing something in the back of the car? And then was that's it or you? You would just naturally have an upset tummy that day. You just happened to go out in the car and be sick. Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? Yeah, funny, yeah, like you say it's. It's that association we make with that, isn't it? And I think fear of flying and things like that is something that we learn as well.

Speaker 1: 21:56

We learn, yeah, definitely. But, yeah, I have no idea whether, like you say that I I think it it wasn't the fear of flying. It was that it was almost that fear of dying or that fear of not being in control. Well, it was actually more, but I dissociated that for some reason.

Speaker 1: 22:14

With a plane, yeah, and getting on a plane and flying, yeah, you know, because in my head I was going to go up and the plane was going to go down, well, it's very dramatic, isn't it? You know, if you've got a plane crash, it is a dramatic thing, dramatic, isn't it? Um, you know, if you've got a plane crash, it is a dramatic thing, isn't it? And, and you're not really going to, you know, it's a miracle if you survive. That, obviously, but they don't actually happen that often. Well, they don't, but it's just when they do happen, they're, they're massive, aren't they? So? And everybody knows about it. Yeah, we see it as a big yeah, and this is the thing.

Speaker 1: 22:45

These days, we hear so much more than we ever used to as well. Yeah, don't they? Yeah, that's the thing, yeah, yeah. So that's it in that thing. It's really interesting, aren't they? Yeah, you go like really deep with that, can you? Yeah, so it's like there's so much based around that. Yeah, I might say.

Speaker 1: 23:04

Often, not anything to do with the fear that you attach it to, no, no, no, it's always worth a look at. We're funny all things. Oh, are we just? Yes, we certainly are. We don't like putting ourselves out there, do we as people? No, do you think that's a brit thing? Well, there is a bit of British programming in there, I think as well. Yeah, not necessarily a bunch of people that like putting ourselves out there, not in general, we're not big risk. Well, if we do, we have kind of apologised for putting ourselves out there.

Speaker 1: 23:43

No, we're funny, aren't we? Because I think we're the worst culture, aren't we for, like you know're funny, aren't we because I think we're the worst culture, aren't we for, like you know, complaining, aren't we, whereas other cultures will just go well, that's not right. You know that's not quite right or something. So they go, okay, we'll change that, whereas we'd like can't say that, because what will people think? What will people say yeah, I don't know what upset somebody set anybody, which you don't need to upset anybody to make a complaint. I mean, some people do because, no, you don't need to be an arse about it. You know that's right, but if something's not right, you're quite entitled to go. You know isn't quite as it should be, no, but yeah, like you say, you don't have to be an arse about it. No, some people like to be an arse about it. Well, some people just ask this in general, aren't they? Yeah, but yeah, yeah, we are. We are a bit we are. We are a bit of a programmed culture for that. Yeah, we are. Keep our mouths shut.

Speaker 1: 24:37

I saw somebody with a t-shirt on that said don't be a dick. I was like I really love, I was like I like that t-shirt. Perhaps we need to design t-shirts don't be a dick on them. I like that. It's great, isn't it? Yeah, you've got to be the person that when somebody says to you you're just a big dick, you go oh thanks, you've got to look at yourself. I think you have. I think you have to look at yourself with some humor. Yeah, absolutely, I think it makes you braver if you do that. I think you, you know, if you're not afraid to make a twat of yourself, then I don't think you. You become as afraid to put yourself out there, because for you, it doesn't matter that if you make a twat of yourself. You make a twat of yourself.

Speaker 1: 25:40

I saw a lovely video yesterday um, I don't think I shared it but and the girl said um, um, when people are horrible, she said when people are horrible to me, I just look at them and go oh, that's okay, I forgive you. She said they get really mad and go, I don't need your forgiveness. And she just goes yes, you do, I walk away. And she went it just makes them so angry because it is when people are horrible to you or that it's all about them. It's not anything to do with you, it's all about them and how they feel about themselves. I thought I like that. So, yeah, that's okay, I forgive you. Because they get real arsed, I don't need your forgiveness. She goes oh, yes, you do, but it's true, it's just honestly. Yeah, I thought it's brilliant.

Speaker 1: 26:37

I said, yeah, it's just a good way of diffusing things, isn't it? And just, but people don't in it. No, people take it on a personal level because then, of where they're sat, with how they feel about themselves, yeah, and it's not. You know, when somebody's arsey towards you or it is, obviously if you've done something real as a knobhead, then you know, that's a bit different, but in general, people get arsey at you because of something that is sat in their world, that's it.

Speaker 1: 27:08

But, like you say, people don't realise that, do they? And just also, you know? But if you feel good about yourself and you're all right in your own skin, it's just water off a duck's back. I think it is because, like you say, you realise where that's coming from, don't you? Yeah, you just let it roll off, you don't let it really affect you, do you? So you kind of just like, and you have to have some of that humor at it, you just have to.

Speaker 1: 27:35

But then, like you say, there are those lovely keyboard warriors and people out there who just like to tell you what they think about you. Well, because, again, it's all about them, isn't it? It makes you feel better about themselves because in some way they're lacking. Bless their cotton socks, bless their cotton socks. Bless their cotton socks. It's okay, we'd like to talk about that. Shall we just say another conversation as to why you think that that's what I would like to do, just like. Fine, okay, come on.

Speaker 1: 28:08

How are we feeling today? Because we're clearly not feeling alright, are we? I know, but it's, you know, it must be horrible when you get it all the time. Yeah, mustn't it? Oh yeah, absolutely. You know, we've only had the odd one or two comments on youtube. Oh, yeah, we've had some funny ones. Fine, if they're watching. Well, this is true. Oh, brilliant, yeah, it is, isn't it? You know just the way it is, isn't it? Yeah, like you say, if you're brave enough to put yourself out there, yeah, that's what comes back, isn't it? Yeah, but you've just not got to take it on a personal level, because you just don't know where people are sat.

Speaker 1: 29:00

And I think, even when people get angry with you, sometimes, if you're in a good place with yourself, you can actually just think you. It's that old cliche saying, is it? You just don't know what's going on somebody's door. No, you don't, do you? And that's the thing, and I think that that makes a massive difference. Then, if you can just have that in your head when somebody says something, then then it's easier just to like let that shit go and yeah, yeah, you know, and we shouldn't, you know, be horrible to people who are brave enough to put themselves out there.

Speaker 1: 29:35

But the world is full of people that struggle with that, you know, but you just need to be in a place, don't you, that allows you to do that. We haven't got to worry about them, you just got to worry about getting yourself in a good place, haven't you? Yeah, you know? I'm not saying, you know, don't be kind to people, because it's good to be kind to people all the time, because you don't know what's going on in their life. But you can't. You can't take on that worry either, can you? No, because that would stop you doing anything. Because if we all actually loved ourselves a lot more and spent a lot of time, more time putting ourselves first and all that, then everybody would be in a better place. Yeah, so a lot that wouldn't go on anyway.

Speaker 1: 30:11

That's the thing in it. You're in that bit of a catch-22, aren't you? So then you're back to that cliche of you know, put your own oxygen mask on first, isn't it? Yeah, look after yourself, that's the thing, and it all goes around and it all makes that massive difference, doesn't it? Yeah, just need to get out of that realm, of which I get is easier said than done, yeah, which I just think we just need to teach kids at a young age that it's not selfish to look after yourself. Oh, absolutely, we started at that young generation. Yeah, then maybe that that would follow, wouldn't it? Yeah, yeah, we don't really teach enough of that. But then we don't do enough of that ourselves to show our kids, because it's all very well saying it, but you've got, you know, kids do what you do, not what you say. So, yeah, it starts at home with that whole thing of we've all got to start looking after ourselves, you're right, and that teaches those kids without us even realizing. So it's not. We need the kids. We need to teach. Is us that we need to teach? Yeah, which is what we're trying to do.

Speaker 1: 31:16

Yeah, the ripple effect. Well, it all starts with that, doesn't it? I think, yeah, it does. You're just chucking that first pebble in and seeing where with that, doesn't it? I think? Yeah, it does. You're just chucking that first pebble in and seeing where it goes, isn't it? Yeah? Yeah, about stepping out, about doing making changes in your life, because changes is hard, making changes is hard, changes is hardest thing. But then, in a way, it's not about changing yourself. I think, in a sense, it's just changing the way you see things, isn't it? Yeah, so it's all sort of comes from the inside. Yeah, definitely that.

Speaker 1: 31:56

That change, like you say, you know my head's had a massive thing with changing. You know, yeah, you have, haven't you? Yeah, it's not liked it at all. You didn't like it at all, did you? No, she'd have a right old piss in her mouth if you talked about change. Yeah, in my head, yeah, my head didn't like it at all. It would. You know you were changing me for the worst if you were changing me, because you know, but actually that's just crap, completing that crap. Yeah, so it's people.

Speaker 1: 32:27

Just, I think there's comfort, even if you're feeling shit. There's comfort in feeling shit because at least you know that's how you feel. Yeah, well, yeah, because if you start to choose to feel differently, then that is scary, yeah, it's scary. It is scary, yeah, scary, yeah, absolutely. And we always said in all this stuff, we do. You know, it sounds really simple and it is really simple.

Speaker 1: 32:54

It's not freaking easy. No, who goes wrong? It's not freaking easy. It's not, is it? No, not at all, no, so, yeah, that's the thing, and the step out of the shadows it. It's bloody difficult, yeah, yeah, and sometimes you have to take tiny baby steps to step out, absolutely Little, dip your toe out and then put it back in again.

Speaker 1: 33:13

It is worth it? Oh, definitely, I wouldn't go back now if you paid me. I don't care how much you try to pay me, I wouldn't go back. No, and it's a never-ending journey. None of us are ever there.

Speaker 1: 33:28

No, because the minute you think got that sorted, know why I do that, or know I feel like that, and then somebody else will bloody come out, you go hey, I'm on a minute. Where did that bloody come from? Yeah, and it does, and, like you say, it's a constant evolving thing. But you've just got to make it fun, haven't you? It's interesting, it is, and you, like you, say you've just got to enjoy it fun, haven't you? It's interesting, it is, and you, like you, say you've just got to enjoy that bit of it. I know it, because sometimes it is hard work and sometimes it does leave you exhausted, but actually it's all for the better and you just got to enjoy that. It's a bit process. You know, if you do exercise in a front meet, if you do, which essentially means me and I don't, but if you do, it's not until, like, you get out of breath or you've put the work in that you then suddenly go oh yeah, that's cool, that's working. So it's the same thing. It's just that you're doing it internally, or I know I had a fight with my head friday, right, we did whitby on fr, which was lovely and stuff like that and then they were like we're going to take you to a place called Robin Hood's Bay, which is just down from Whitby Beautiful again, scenery, hill and hill, right.

Speaker 1: 34:36

So you have to park at the top of the place and then you walk down this hill. I'm not kidding, you is like a smaller version of poor, poor lock hill. So poor lock hill in our places around here is like massive. It's like, okay, so you can't drive down, you've got to walk down and up. I was going to say if you walk down, that means you've got to go back up.

Speaker 1: 35:01

I was like so we got to the top down a little bit from where we parked and they were like we're going to go down. I was like really, my head's going. You're not fucking walking down there enough again, are you? I was like I can feel myself, I can feel like that kid in the game, I don't want to walk anymore. And we, to be fair, we'd walked absolute miles all week. I know she's justifying it. We'd walked absolute miles all week. I know she's justifying it, I am trying to justify it. I was like I'm not walking down there anymore. I've walked fucking miles all week because I'm alright with walking. It's just hills I'm not great with. But yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:41

So we walked down and we walked onto the beach and then we were walking back up and then we eventually got to the top and I thought shouldn't I have worn that bad? I was like what's up there you are, see, I got up and I thought, blimey, that's not. I thought I would be like in a heap on the floor. Imagine if you hadn't have done that, yeah, you wouldn't have experienced that. No, I wouldn't experience the little streets and there were some little places and the beach was lovely and yeah, so it was beautiful. But at the top of that hill.

Speaker 1: 36:09

And see, the moral of that is to do it with other people, because probably if you'd been on your own, you'd have gone. No, I'm not doing it. No, no, you're right, I would actually think you know what they're all going to do it. Yeah, so I'll do it. Yeah, I did have a choice. Do you know what I mean? Like all going down. Yeah, I'm not going to be the Mardy bitch at the top of it, that's right, but sometimes that's a good thing because it pushes you out of that comfort and makes you do it. Yeah, yeah, and that's why it's always good to do all of this stuff. This is it, with that support and with people around you.

Speaker 1: 36:39

Yeah, definitely, and difference, and it is just, you know, the sake of doing that. It was lovely and actually when I walked back up the hill because we'd walked up and down loads of hills a week you know I wasn't on a heap on the floor hyperventilating and calling for an ambulance and it was lovely I could say, yeah, but yeah, yeah I was, yeah, my head's, but like saying it, you know, even that exists now, you know, with all that, oh god, yeah, yeah, but it's just been a mardy cow again. The difference is now you notice it's there. That's the only difference, because you're never going to make it go away. No, but, like you say, I noticed it was there, but you noticed it and go, hang on a minute. Yeah, shove the hell up, get your ass down that hill. Absolutely, stop being a sloppy cow. Love it, right. Shall we leave these lovely folk. Yeah, we've talked about nothing today. It's been good. We have talked about absolutely fuck all today, to be honest, no-transcript.