Reflecting on Identity and the Power of Self-Care

Can the moon really influence our energy and concentration? Join us as we kick off with some light-hearted banter about the nostalgic song "Let's Get Ready to Rumble" by Ant and Dec, and share our amusing run-ins with filtered TikTok comments. Reminiscing about our days as massage therapists, we dive into the quirky personal questions we receive on social media and hilariously admit to improvising this episode. Our conversation meanders to the theme of acceptance and future content ideas, leading to a fascinating discussion about the impact of the moon, particularly during the recent longest day and Capricorn full moon.

Ever felt like society pushes you to the brink of exhaustion? We delve into the importance of self-care and listening to our bodies, despite the relentless push for productivity. Highlighting cultural differences in health approaches, we emphasize the significance of preventive care, referencing Dr. Andy Cope's work on positive psychology. We touch on the stigmatization of labels in neurodiversity and ponder why society resists labels that can actually help individuals understand and manage their traits more effectively.

Reflecting on self-identity, we explore how aging and experience can liberate us from societal and personal masks, making us more comfortable in our own skin. Our discussion takes a thoughtful turn as we examine the human tendency to judge, the contradictions in parenting, and the humor children bring by exposing our everyday hypocrisies. Wrapping up, we set the stage for next month's focus on understanding and fostering acceptance, leaving you with meaningful dialogue and thought-provoking insights.

Chapters

• 0:00 Acceptance and Moon Phases
• 5:27 Listening to Your Body and Self-Care
• 11:32 Exploring Acceptance and Personal Growth
• 27:22 Inner Work and Personal Growth
• 32:29 Exploring Judgment and Acceptance

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:43

Okay, we are ready to go and we're ready to rumble. We're ready to rumble. I always think of that Ant and Dec song. I know you can't help it, can you? Oh, some of our TikTok comments have been filtered to protect the community. I'm not surprised. It's because people have been rude. We're having a rude day on TikTok it is. We're getting some quite personal questions.

Speaker 1: 1:09

It's going back to being our massage therapist days. Love, isn't it I just got. Are you having a struggle? Yeah, just need to take that off. Oh, I feel like a professional. Now, what that might be like that. Do you feel like you should be singing and dancing on the stage? No, I won't put you through that. Oh, no, why not? Have you heard me sing? No, because you never sing exactly, so you never own up and sing. No, I never sing. Why? Um, because it's a bit rubbish. Yeah, says who? Oh, says your kid. Yeah, but every kid says their parent. No, seriously, they're right, I cannot sing to save my life. I used to sing Runaway a lot, as in like the Bon Jovi Runaway. No, what? Oh, who was it that sung?

Speaker 2: 2:03

it. I can't remember now.

Speaker 1: 2:06

Anyway, let's not talk about my singing, because it's not pleasant. I'll have to do karaoke one night, that'll be good. Yeah, they must do karaoke locally, don't they? I don't know, actually, because there's a lot of um places that don't know aren't there. Why not, though? Oh, you don't get pubs like you used to. Oh god, now we're in our day. Oh god, here we go, and we did like reminiscing, like 50 years yeah, anyway, what we're going to talk about today, we have no clue.

Speaker 1: 2:43

We were making this shit up today. Okay, we can do that. We did think, literally we've just come on and said we don't know what we're going to talk about today, we're literally just gonna see what happens. So, god help you listening to this. Lot, you lot, god help you lot, because it's just going to be some random if we haven't well, we're a bit behind, don't? We haven't even had our theme sweet music, getting this oh, you're not in here.

Speaker 1: 3:08

Look, um, we don't have a theme for the month, don't we? Because this is all about acceptance and, yeah, acceptance, yeah, so, but we so we need to, I don't know need some ideas. We always need ideas. We just, honestly, I don't know, need some ideas. We always need ideas. Honestly, I don't know whether it's anybody else, but we were just talking how absent-minded we are about doing things.

Speaker 1: 3:40

Sometimes I'm blaming the moon. That's true, we can blame the moon. I think there is an aspect of that. I'm definitely governed by governed Governed See, can't even talk properly. Governed by the moon a lot of the time. It's definitely, it's definitely zapped me in the last couple of days. It's zapped me of energy concentration. That's why I said I've got no brain cells at the moment. They've left the building and I definitely there's so little, because obviously it's been like the longest day as well, isn't it? So you've had like the full solar aspect of it as well, really. So what moon are we crashing through at the moment? Oh god, now you're asking me a question, aren't you? Uh, we are just going into today, so at 208, 8, so where the this morning, 22nd?

Speaker 2: 4:30

yeah, so the 2 0 8.

Speaker 1: 4:31

This morning it was, uh, it went into the capricorn full moon and what is going? On I knew you were going to ask don't ask me those questions. You can't ask me those questions. Um, what does it mean?

Speaker 1: 4:47

so again it's kind of the solar stuff has been about. She keeps poking me about revisiting where you've been this year. So with this with, like, the longest day is about how far you've got this year where you think that you've not got as far as you should, and what you want for the next six months coming up for the, so for the rest of the year okay, and all that kind of thing. And the Capricorn moon is kind of reiterating that a little bit and giving us all right, okay.

Speaker 2: 5:21

So yeah, we need to kind of, there's quite a lot to think about yeah, I think it is, and I think it's just.

Speaker 1: 5:27

You have to go with that, don't you? I think, sometimes, that you know we talk about this whole self-care all the time, don't we? But we have to listen to our bodies when we don't know I'm going to take my glasses off when we're in that mode where we just keep going even though our bodies are saying we're absolutely knackered, you need to stop, you need to rest. We keep going, don't we? Yeah, and I must admit I've been quite, um, what's the word? Guilty of that the past few days where you, where you need a real kick in the ass to like stop, yeah, as you do tend to, we all tend to like push through, don't we? Which is ridiculous. We do, don't we? Because, like you say, we're programmed to do that, we're programmed to push through, carry on, and we, like you, say we have jobs to do. We have, yeah, other commitments as well as jobs, don't we? So you keep going and keep going, um, but I think sometimes, I mean, we both believe, don't we, that your body will put you on your ass eventually if you keep going and you're not dealing with stuff. Absolutely, yeah, you know, and even if that is, it's not listening. You know, if you want to get deeper into it, you know, with the whole emotional stuff, if you, you know it will put you on your ass sometimes or it will show you in a way, oh, definitely you're not listening. Our bodies can actually teach us a lot more than we give it credit for really doesn't work.

Speaker 1: 6:53

I think we've lost. We we need to really get back to connecting with ourselves. Definitely, I think we've lost the ability. It's been programmed out of us for generations, hasn't it? But I think we've lost the ability to be able to listen to our body, have that intuitive, intuitive recognition within us about what it's trying to say. Yeah, yeah, and now that's seen as woo-woo, whereas centuries ago that wouldn't have been seen as that would have been you know the norm, whereas now it's seen as a woo-woo thing and you either subscribe to that or you don't.

Speaker 1: 7:38

And we we're funny, I know the way we ignore it so much. And then, when we get to crashing point, we wonder why, yeah, we're, we're such our worst enemies. It's crap, isn't it? It is crazy when you, when you really think about it, it's absolutely crazy. Like, why do we do that? Why don't? Because isn't it that, like the chinese, they only go to the doctor to keep themselves? Well, yes, they don't wait until they're unwell, no, but we wait until we're very unwell, not even unwell, yeah, until we're very unwell, until we do anything about it. Yeah, well, if you think, it makes me think of so. We've done some work with a guy called Dr Andy Cope. Amazing art of brilliant stuff is incredible. If you ever come across him, honestly, he's amazing, andy, look him up, yeah, honestly, look him up. He's fabulous. Well, anyway, he talks about that. So he's now he's got a phd in positive psychology because he's a doctor of happiness, which is an amazing title, isn't it everybody? Yeah, you'd go and see a doctor of happiness wouldn't you seriously?

Speaker 1: 9:00

you'd rock up to doctor of happiness rather than your gp oh god yeah, absolutely, um, but anyway.

Speaker 1: 9:06

So I just think it's amazing that they've done that. But he talks about the fact that, you know, in psychology, in normal psychology PhDs, all they do is look at unwell people. They never look at well people and they don't look at how well people exist and the difference between well people and unwell people. All they look at is unwell people. Yeah, so we're taking all our research from unwell people. Well, that makes sense, doesn't it? But that's what I mean. It just doesn't make any sense does it it doesn't, does it?

Speaker 1: 9:43

Look at why people stay healthy, stay well, yeah, that's what we should be following. Yeah, and then, like you say, you make that mainstream. Yeah, don't make the old, the unwell stuff mainstream, which is what we've done. Yeah, and that's the trouble is that we've made that the mainstream. So that's what we all focus on the unwell aspect. And it's funny, this sort of digresses a little bit. But the other day I was listening to something to do with, um, neurodiversity and labels, yeah, and how people think that almost that you shouldn't have those labels or it's unhealthy to have those labels, and yet for any other illness or disability, people are quite happy with labels. So what are they saying?

Speaker 1: 10:44

the difference is between being on the autistic or the neurodivergent stuff than being. It suddenly hit me why is it, almost as people think, it's so wrong for neurodivergents to label themselves so that they know who they are? Who they are? Because if you had diabetes, say, for an example, you would need that diagnosis, yes, to know how to manage your health, yes. So why is there such a difference? Why? Why is it really interesting?

Speaker 1: 11:26

question know, I've never thought of it before and I don't know why. Suddenly it sort of came on. But why do people think it's so wrong for them to have that diagnosis and that label as people? I don't know why people call it a label, but they do Because they need to know how to manage their health as much as somebody, yeah, who's got diabetes, or yeah, or even well, anything, yeah, funny, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 12:03

but is it because, um, it's a, um, but it's not even a mental health thing, is it? Do you know what I mean? Is it because it's a? Again one of those things where it's non-visible, non-visible probably actually. You know it's not a medical condition for one of another thing. Yeah, do you know what I mean? And you can't treat it with a tablet or an injection can you no, no, maybe that's why.

Speaker 1: 12:36

You know you can't, so, maybe, but it's all about being healthy, isn't it? In whatever way, in whatever form, yeah, it's all about just being healthy. But it is about and looking after ourselves In whatever, be that illness, illness, mental health, anyway. Yes, yeah, we should all be accepting of that with each other, shouldn't we? But we should. But there's a great, big, long list of things that don't happen, isn't there?

Speaker 1: 13:12

You know, and I think you know, the neurodivergent thing now is becoming much more talked about, much more acceptable, much more well, because we're getting to know more about it, aren't we? Yeah, I mean, that's no different than, I think, dementia, I mean, when I was little, you know, we had crazy, crazy grannies in the corner tonight. You know, yeah, ask you 10 000 times who you are. That was just crazy granny. You've never heard of the word dementia, alzheimer's, no, whereas now there's been a lot more work done in that and research in those areas. So they know more, yeah, about alzheimer's and dementia.

Speaker 1: 13:50

And that's the same, I think, with the neurodivergent side of things. It's just because it's not that there's more people with it, it's just that we have a bigger understanding of it. We need to accept that, really, don't we, we're people, can be quite unaccepting, yeah, and I think of those areas I, oh god. Yeah, I just think this is. It's just that we're, my God, we're evolving as humans and in what we understand. So much aren't we now? Yes, but we have these funny boxes where we put all these things in, don't we People?

Speaker 2: 14:29

like boxes.

Speaker 1: 14:30

People love boxes, don't they? People love the idea of being put in a well, okay, I was going to say people love the idea of being put in a box. That's bs.

Speaker 1: 14:41

They don't, because the people like to put other people in the box yeah, the person that they're trying to put in the box doesn't want to be in that, but other people need to. For their sense of security and safety, they need to be put in a box. They need that person to be put in a box because, if they're not, it makes them unsafe and secure don't they. We need to be a lot more accepting of well, we need to be a lot more accepting of ourselves absolutely yeah but we actually do need to be more accepting of each other, don't we?

Speaker 1: 15:14

and other people? Oh, god, hell, yeah, all the time. Maybe that's where we should go next month, because we've been accepting of ourselves this month. Maybe we need to have that acceptance a little bit with, um, yeah, I think that's a good idea. There you go. Thanks, that's just talking about we've disappeared, we've disappeared off, uh, off, have we been banned again? Yeah, I think. Yeah, maybe that's where we need to go with it. Yeah, maybe it is. Maybe it is just, like you say, that level of acceptance with others.

Speaker 1: 15:59

Yeah, and maybe just addressing why you don't accept other people and to look at yourself, why you're doing that, to address, isn't it, to be honest, yeah, because you're still then. You're still looking at yourself, aren't you? Yeah, that's a. That's an interesting one. Yeah, so just to uh, yeah, yeah, maybe we should do that then maybe that's our yeah, maybe we should do that and maybe that's our Sorry, we're just pausing. Yeah, our live disappeared for some reason. So, yeah, maybe it is. Yeah, I think that's a good one to look at, because I still think that's a good way to really sit and look at yourself, isn't it? Yeah, because we all have those big areas of judgment and that judgment is is somewhere probably in there a non-acceptance of ourself, definitely, I think. I think we judge other people because of that. There's something in ourselves that we don't accept about in ourselves. Yeah, yeah, and then that causes us to to judge. Yeah, so it's a really good thing to look at. Yeah, because we all judge.

Speaker 1: 17:22

If you know, all of us, you know, have made judgments of other people, you know, not necessarily in an unkind way, but we, we do it, you know yes, it's a little bit of a default thing that we we do with without thought as well, as I think a lot of the time as without, definitely without thought, of why we're making that judgment. Yeah, gosh, yes, and what is pushing us to make that judgment? Yeah, but I think it's quite a big thing then to turn that around, yes, and say to yourself hold on a sec, why am I thinking that? Why am I feeling that, yeah, why am I making that judgment? It's quite a big unit. Oh, it's huge. Because people don't want to really look, do they?

Speaker 1: 18:10

no people don't want to look at themselves they don't want to, because it's hard, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 18:17

It's hard to look at yourself. It is. It's hard to be actually truthfully, brutally honest with yourself and go okay, so why am I doing that? I, you know, clearly that's something in me, but people don't like doing that because it's uncomfortable and it's very. I think we all find it really hard to be truthful sometimes with ourselves. Oh yeah, we're really good at like making excuses for ourselves, yes, or making excuses for why we've said that, why we've felt that. Because it peels back a lot, doesn't it?

Speaker 1: 18:56

yeah, it's a bit scary because people like you say to see otherwise is scary yeah it's scary to go, and it and I think the trouble is is there's a fine line between I, you know, looking at yourself and being truthful yourself and blaming yourself. Yes, and I think people assume that when you're looking at yourself to find out what's going on, is that you're blaming yourself. It's not, there's a difference. But I don't think people necessarily grasp the fact that there's a difference between the both. Well, no, because we're, we're very programmed in blame, aren't we? Yes, yeah, that's the thing, you know. You either do one of the two. You either blame outwards, don't you, or you blame inwards. Yeah, you know, for me, you know I was a massive. Well, it's my fault, it's my fault, everything was my fault, you know. So it was easy for me to turn that around, to go well, it's just my fault. Yeah, and actually trying to explain to people sometimes the difference is is huge, is that?

Speaker 1: 20:03

there is a difference between blame and being truthful with yourself and thinking, oh, okay, you know, that's why I do that, and rather than going, oh, it's my fault, well, it's to not blame somebody else. Yes, isn't it? Yeah, to be in that neutral position? Yeah, whereas it things don't have to be a fault of yourself or somebody else, which and, like you said, it's a real fine night. It's really difficult. It is place to sit. It is really difficult to sit there. It's really difficult to be.

Speaker 1: 20:47

It's really difficult to be neutral about something or have no emotion about something. It is yeah. So you either, as in no emotion, as in I'm not blaming myself and I'm not blaming somebody else. Sometimes it's almost like looking at the bigger picture, isn't it? Yes, of what are all the things that have contributed? Yes, but that doesn't have to be a blame? No, but there are obviously lots of different aspects that are going to contribute to why you think or feel that way. Yeah, it's so, and that's the trouble is because it's deep and, like you say, people don't want to get into there they don't want to get.

Speaker 1: 21:35

It's almost. I think people are scared to open that pandora's box because they're a bit scared about what will come out. What's going to come out? Yeah, good old skeletons in the cupboard yeah, oh christ, jesus, am I fucking rattled.

Speaker 1: 21:48

I ain't gonna lie, it's like a bloody graveyard in there. But I think we all have that, but we're scared to let that out. We're scared to let those skeletons come out and do their thing, aren't we? You know, which is such a shame because actually, when you, when you, and it is like it can be like opening the floodgate gate sometimes, and it is a real journey to get through that. But if you can, not, if you when you can, yeah, but it is about being truthful, it is about being honest, and especially to yourself, but then it can be so liberating, so releasing, oh god, yeah, to actually let those, let those skeletons out.

Speaker 1: 22:31

To be honest, and I think that's with the skeletons, right, it's, if you think of a skeleton, it's just bones in it, it's got no meat or flesh to it at all. A skeleton. And actually, when you look at the things that you are hiding from, they're not as scary. They are just bones. They haven't got any meat or flesh on them such a good way of looking at it. But you think they have, yeah, but it's a bit like them, yeah, because it's like the monster in the cupboard, isn't it? When you let them out, it's a bit like yeah, because it's like the monster in the cupboard, isn't it? When you let him out, he's actually a little mouse, yeah, you know, but you build it into being this monster and that's a really good way of looking at it. I like that.

Speaker 2: 23:12

Yeah, but they haven't, haven't they? They've got no flesh on.

Speaker 1: 23:14

It's just a pile of bones, yeah, but it's just what you, your thoughts of what you put to it. Yeah, adds what you think is the meat and flesh. Yeah, exactly, it's not as scary as you think it is. No, it's not. If you think about it, we've all fleshed out a story. If you think of it, we'll add it a little bit. Oh god, yeah, we love doing that, don't we exactly? Everybody does it, don't they? So, yeah, it's just. But people that they're the people of people are really fighting to do it.

Speaker 1: 23:43

You don't need to be fighting to doing it not at all. No, and I'm not sure. I think it's being scared of change. Yeah, because you were a big one oh huge. Yes, yours was huge. The thought of changing myself and I don't mean physically, I mean kind of emotionally or where I thought my head was was huge. For me, again, it's just fear of the unknown. Yeah, because you're used to being who you think you are. Yes, you're used to thinking the way you think.

Speaker 2: 24:21

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:21

Reacting the way you, all, those things all together. So then to suddenly change that.

Speaker 2: 24:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 24:29

You then think, oh, who am I going to be? I'm going to be a different person, that's it. And that when you're in a place, so we call it the okay club In the fact that you're in a place, that you're okay, you're not like down in the doldrums, no, but you're also not like up here either, you're in the okay club and you're kind of going along okay and you're like middle of the road, it's comfortable it's comfortable, we all like to be comfortable and I am built for comfort and not speed.

Speaker 1: 25:05

Um, but it's, I don't know shit. What was I doing, sorry? No, it's fine. No, it's not, is it? It's just brain fart, um, so yeah, when you're in that and you think that you're okay with yourself, when something's challenging you to change, you're like, oh shit, no, because you, just you. My first go-to was well, that's going to make me a worse person.

Speaker 2: 25:32

Not that it's going to make me a better person, wow yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:37

So my automatic default was that was going to make me a worse person, not a oh, that could make me a better person. Isn't that funny? Yeah, yeah, and I can see that in the sense of because you were, you were a huge people pleaser. So then, not to, to have to put boundaries in, yeah for you is massive, which is which then you can't. You're gonna have to say that word yeah, not two-letter word, not three-letter word. Yeah, yeah, I can see so it is, isn't it? It's like you say you're like, oh shit, I'm really gonna have to like and to make that change was like a really massive. Now I'm like, oh, bring it on. What else can I do? Do you know what I mean? What other boundary can I put in, or what?

Speaker 2: 26:29

other aspect of me.

Speaker 1: 26:30

Can I do? Do you look at it as growing and not changing?

Speaker 2: 26:33

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:34

See, I think, again, it's the language here. Yeah, so again, it's flipping that word. It's not changing, like you say, it's growing that word. It's not changing it, like you say, it's growing, it's growing, it's growing, it's evolving, it's not. And actually it's about bringing out the, the real you, yes, that you're covering up, yes, by people pleasing, exactly, isn't? It is such an unhealthy thing for you to do? Yeah, so it's actually about. It's not about changing, it's just about allowing you to open that cupboard yeah and allowing yourself your true self.

Speaker 1: 27:09

Yeah, like you're saying it, that fundamentally, you know I am a kind person, fundamentally, that you know. That sits within my core. I thought that that would change if I started doing the work. Well, fundamentally, a lot of us don't even know who we are. No, because we're so covered up, yeah, with programming, with masking, with all those things for us to be able to cope, yeah, to get through, to fit in, that we, we don't ever show our real selves. No, so a lot of time we don't, you don't necessarily know who we really are. No, I don't, I don't think we do, I don't think anybody. Maybe by the time you've got to our age you do get to that point, but I can't see any. We're just.

Speaker 1: 27:58

I think you get to an age where you're more willing to just be yourself and it's like I don't give a shit what anybody else thinks oh, and I think, but I think that that's it, and I think you have to be able to do that, yeah and that's when you can, that allows you to yeah, I think age definitely makes a difference, doesn't it? You know? So, yeah, it's, it's really yeah, but yeah, it's difficult to break out of those patterns, those patterns that you've done for like 50, 60 years yeah it is, and then suddenly to to break away from that yeah and even your own thinking.

Speaker 1: 28:36

You have to just sometimes stop, yeah, and think why, yeah, and we don't question ourselves no, no, for all the reasons that you know, you've said yeah, we don't. You say like you say we don't look at why we you know we've judged somebody walking down the street. We don't look at why, you know we have an issue with somebody in particular. We just don't do it. And it's not something that we're ever taught at a young age to do, are we no? But I think when you get older, you you become that age like you're more willing to put your hands up and go yeah, I fucked up, yeah, but I think you are, aren't you? I think, genuinely, you are more able to do that. You have less worry. I know I have less worry about what other people think. I know, and that's doing the inner work has helped that.

Speaker 1: 29:26

But oh, definitely, but I even that I think I get old. You know, when I used to work in dementia care and stuff like that, I used to love the fact that you'd get to 80 and royally not give a shit about anybody or anything. That, oh, I used to piss myself laughing. It was so funny. I used to love them to bit. But honestly, you get to an age where people just don't care, you know and they're not being half the time, they're not being rude or or anything like that they just don't.

Speaker 1: 29:56

They just don't say it as it is the same as kids say it as a yeah as it is. But you like, you say you go from one end to the other, don't you?

Speaker 2: 30:03

so you have toddlers again you have toddlers that will just say it is, it is.

Speaker 1: 30:05

But like you say, you go from one end to the other, don't you? You have toddlers that will just say it as it is, and you know parents are honest, aren't they? I don't want to say that to people, why not? They always drop you in it, don't they yeah exactly. Oh God, yeah, they do. Don't you and never tell a kid that you can't tell anybody that oh, no, no it's like it's dying to get out.

Speaker 1: 30:27

I've done that before. Don't tell your dad that that's the first thing to do. It's brilliant. You'll never guess what mommy did today. And then we tell we spend the rest of their lives telling them you've got to be honest. You should be truthful. Okay, don't lie, you'll get in trouble. Yeah, you just made me lie to your dad your dad by telling them I didn't hit the car today so contradictory aren't we let's go under all like messed up it's no wonder we're screwed up as adults, is it seriously?

Speaker 1: 31:00

I know, I know it's funny I just seriously, like if you think about the light I mean the light, I love it, the language we use, and I don't mean, you know, effing and blinding, all that sort of thing, the actual words that you use, just amazing. It's no wonder we're all at mush brains, isn't it? It is no wonder, oh, it's funny. Yay, joe's on. Yeah, it's no wonder we're all screwed up, yeah really yeah is it because we lie to our kids as parents all the time absolutely lie to them all the time.

Speaker 1: 31:43

We have to be a little bit more accepting of ourselves and others, yeah. And then we, like you, say we, you know we lie to each other. Yeah, we just like you say it teaches us to then be judgmental of other people. Yeah, because you see big people doing it, don't you? Yeah, big people doing it and little people do not listen. Listen to what your dogs do. They just do what you're showing them.

Speaker 1: 32:05

Yeah, exactly, they don't care what you're saying to them at all, they just want to know what you're saying or what you're doing. Yeah, you know, yeah, so, yeah, it's just mad. It's a box of frogs, really, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, you know, but mad as a box of frogs, really in it? Yeah, yeah, you know. But yeah, we're gonna do that next month. We're gonna do our next month. We've decided. Our next month is about how you see other people in judgments. You make an acceptance of other people yeah, as well as yourself, it'd be good, good, good, good adventure.

Speaker 1: 32:40

How are we doing, jo? So yeah, that's what we need to do. So should we leave these lovely people to it? Cool, yeah, we'll leave you to it. God, this is a short one. We've cut quite for today. That's because we had nothing to talk about, but we managed it for 32 minutes. Yeah, we've talked about a sod all for the next, like 32 minutes. Right, my lovelies, we'll leave you to it. Bye.