Facing Fears and Honoring Memories in North Wales

Have you ever wondered how facing your biggest fears could lead to personal growth and profound transformation? Join us as we recount our emotional journey to North Wales, where we embarked on a fundraising zip wire adventure in memory of my mum. Despite her recent passing, we honored her and the incredible nursing home staff who cared for her by pushing our limits and raising over £800. Experience the mix of excitement, anticipation, and raw emotion we faced while suspended high above breathtaking landscapes, all for a cause that touched our hearts deeply.

Discover the power of breath control and mental fortitude as we share insights on managing anxiety and fear during our high-adrenaline zip wire experience. Learn how simple breathing techniques kept our nerves in check and prevented panic, even while feeling like a caterpillar in a cocoon. We delve into the mental challenges and self-motivation required to step off that platform, high up a mountain, with nothing but a void below. Reflect with us on how focusing on the task at hand and honoring my mum helped us conquer our fears and self-doubt.

Reflect on the transformative nature of confronting personal challenges head-on and the liberation that comes from overcoming worries about others' perceptions. We emphasize the importance of giving ourselves credit for our achievements and stepping out of our comfort zones. Hear about the trust, support, and shared sense of purpose that carried us through this adventure, inspiring us to embrace new experiences despite potential fears. With heartfelt encouragement, we leave you with the reminder to seize every opportunity and make the most of every adventure, no matter how daunting it may seem.

Chapters

• 0:00 Adventure in North Wales
• 13:42 Overcoming Fear Through Breathing Techniques
• 18:14 Overcoming Fear and Self-Doubt
• 33:34 Challenging Fears and Overcoming Limits
• 37:45 Embracing Challenges and Overcoming Fears

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:43

How are you? How are you? You all right? Yeah, I'm good, darling. How are you? I'm all right. Thank you, good, all is good.

Speaker 1: 0:52

It's been a bit of a few weeks, hasn't it? It's been positive, yeah, it is. It is good to be honest, and that's not what we've come on to talk about today. We decided we were going to be specific about what we talked about today, weren't we? Yeah, we were going to talk about our little trip and our little adventure on Monday. Yes, we're a venture and a half. And what our inner voices were telling us, oh, my God, yeah, so last, it's been a bit of a week, a bit of a week, bit of a fortnight, hasn't it? It has, indeed, it has indeed, it has indeed, my darling.

Speaker 1: 1:28

But we took up a little, we took a little jolly, didn't we? On the 7th, 8th, 8th, 8th of July, up to up to sunny, north Wales, and it was sunny, it was sunny, it was beautiful, amazing, beautiful area, yeah, beautiful views. Yeah, because I think we mentioned, didn't we, that I had the um, had the zip wire? Yeah, for my birthday, for my sixth year? Yes, I don't know whether we mentioned we turned it into a fundraiser, though, did we? I'm not sure I can't remember whether we did or not, I can't remember. So we turned it into a fundraiser for the nursing home that my mum was in, because they had just been absolutely amazing. It had been incredible and unfortunately, a couple of days before we did the fundraiser, I lost my mum.

Speaker 1: 2:23

So we were determined, if we could, that we would do it, because it seemed even more what's the word? It's fitting, the writing. Yeah, it seemed fitting to go and do that for her. Yeah, because we were doing it for the nursing home, because they have just gone above and beyond and then so it was like it then became almost like a thank you from mum, didn't it really? Yeah, this is it, isn't it like you say? You know, yeah, gave us that opportunity to be able to do that, didn't it? Yeah, because we didn't want to like cancel it or postpone it, because it just seemed the right time.

Speaker 1: 3:06

Yeah, even though it's all a bit crazy, I was going to say, even though you think it, you know it was crazy, it was, it was crazy and you know there were lots of conversations leading up to that whether we were going or not going or whether we were going to postpone it and yeah, and fair play to you, because you were like, nope, we're going to do this. Nope, we're going to do this, nope, we're going to do this. I was like, look, we can postpone it. She's like, no, we're going to do this. I think I just felt like I needed to do it. Yeah, because it all the way along it had been for mum, yeah, and then it it seemed just, yeah, I can't think that there is a word but yeah, fitting, but that we just do it. And, oh my god, we did it. I can't believe we did it. I mean, we raised a load of money. We've got, I think, eight over 800 pounds now, haven't we? Yeah, which I'm just so grateful for. It's amazing. We're going to put that to the staff because it was a British Legion home, dunkirk, and just well. Honestly, they're truly amazing. I've worked in a lot of care homes over my years and they're a truly beautiful bunch, absolutely, absolutely amazing, and they so deserve something from that. They really do Absolutely. So that's what we're going to do in it. We're going to do it so that it's the yeah staff that get the benefit, because they're the ones that have been truly amazing. So, yeah, so off.

Speaker 1: 4:39

We went to sunny sunny. Now I tell you what one of the biggest things I remember is that morning, because we were going out for a couple of days, weren't we? But we obviously cut it short for obvious reasons, um, and in the morning we weren't due to do it, were we till 20 past one in the afternoon, and then we sort of sat there and suddenly we said, let's see if we can get it earlier. So let's just go over there in person, because they're more likely maybe if they can get us in earlier, because we're there. So, bless you, lynn drove and we sort of drove around this very beautiful country corner and then you just see this place, which is a quarry and a mountain, and up in the far distance is this tiny little what looked like a shed in the mountaintop. That we knew that that was where we were going to go from. And we both just looked at it and went, oh, and I remember my stomach turning and we just went fuck, that's it.

Speaker 1: 5:44

It was that we were really calm up until that. We were like we've got this, it's not a problem until we did that. And then it was. It was like, oh, honestly, honestly, I, the, the emotions, the I think we went. You know that, that voice in your head what the fuck are you doing? I swear to God. I swear to God. My stomach virtually dropped through my ass straight away and it was like, yeah, what the hell do you think you're doing? This is not safety. It's not safety, not in any degree At all safety. It's not safety in any degree at all. What's the fucking ever? Yeah, well, I think there was lots of lessons learned that day. Oh my good god, I'm not gonna lie honestly. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 6:42

So I think, arriving there was like, oh my god, what are we doing? Yeah, it was just mad. Yeah, it was. It was mad. I mean, luckily, they were amazing. They got us on early, so we weren't sat there for like three hours just watching everybody else come down. That was good, wasn't it? We sort of, in a way, didn't have a lot of time. We had time to go for a pee and have a quick tea, and that was about it, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because otherwise I yeah, I'm not sure it was bad enough. There were times my inner voice was going bottle it, bottle it. Then you need to fucking bottle it. There's no way you're gonna manage that and we went on.

Speaker 1: 7:22

So you do like this test. So you get all harness stuff and everything, don't you? Yeah, which which was an experience in itself, oh, especially when they said that so what? So they harness Tracy up and then they double check it all the time, don't you? So you get two or three other people. One of them said to her so who did up your harness? And she's undoing it and redoing it up. You're like shit, great.

Speaker 1: 7:49

It didn't help that all of them looked about fucking 12. No, they did, didn't they? I swear to God, most of them were old enough to be our grandchildren, or young enough to be our grandchildren, to be perfectly frank, not people you generally want to rely on harnessing you up for something. That's good. But, in all fairness, wasn't it Every step of the way you were checked, double checked and triple checked? Yeah, you were, so you can't fault them for that, but it was a little bit Shit. That was a good start.

Speaker 1: 8:23

Yes, it doesn't feel you overly feel you were confident that we're doing the right thing, does it? No, no, yes, it doesn't feel you overly feel you were confident that we're doing the right thing, does it? No, no, no, it was funny. Yeah, I think, oh, my god, I just yeah, oh, even now when I think about it. And then we did that for. So the first one, you got the first zip wire you do. It's like it's only a short one, yeah, so it's like they last for 30 seconds and you only go at 30 miles an hour.

Speaker 1: 8:52

I remember coming off there I don't know whether I said it, I was definitely thinking it just like shit, that was weird. It was. I can't even describe the feeling. It was weird, but that only went straight as well. Yeah, so you came out of this little shed thing. You just went straight across across a little part of the ferry and it's just because you're in this, you're strapped in this hammock head first, with your arms strapped to your side, which is a really weird feeling, because when you fall, you, oh, you're going somewhere head first. You want to put your eyes out. It is a weird. It's not a natural position to be in, is it no? So you're like laying your feet are on this sort of on this pole to keep you straight. Yeah, so you're aerodynamic. That's why I dare a mate with my arse, but it is, I don't know how to describe it and I just thought, oh my god, just done that. I don't know whether I can do one.

Speaker 1: 9:55

That is now three kilometres up the mountain, a hundred miles an hour, like I don't know whether I could do this, so that's it, isn't it? So, like you say, does that, does that make it worse or better? Are they not just better off whacking you up the top and going down there? Or, like you say I understand they're like, because people are nervous, it gives you that. Lead up to it. Yeah, but I, like you say, I think it probably was better.

Speaker 1: 10:25

But I think at that moment I thought, oh shit, that was where it really crept in that. Then, oh, I didn't like that, I didn't like that. And then I gotta do it much faster and much higher, and I don't like that, oh my god. And then we got that bloody lorry thing. Oh my god, that's hilarious, that wagon to go up there. So it's three kilometers up the mountain. Yeah, well, that was like rugged terrain, but we were bouncing about in this bloody. So it's like an. Oh they like an army truck, an old army truck in it that they painted red, literally on.

Speaker 1: 11:05

Yeah, at some point then, because it it's like you say it goes up mountain in like a mountain, it winds up. That's what I was trying to look for, yeah, and at some point you're thinking this freaking truck is not going to get up the mountain because it suddenly like stops. And you're thinking, shit, is it even going to go any further? Because it's got like flipping a lorry full of people. So what were there about? 18 of us? I think 20 of us, yeah, I reckon something like that, something like that, yeah, yeah, so yeah, it's making its way up. Are you like you're bouncing around for flipping england? It's just, that was an experience.

Speaker 1: 11:41

Oh, beautiful views out the back of it, because we sat in the back of it. So beautiful views. You're like great, that's fine. But actually, as you're going up, you're thinking, shit, this is getting higher and higher. Yes, everything was looking a little smaller. It was, yeah, it was yeah. And then, like you say you get up there, don't you? And because there's like a lorry that's gone before, you can't go straight in like the no, in the little sort of shend off place, no, in the viewing spot, which, again, beautiful views. But when you're standing here you're thinking, holy shit, we've now got to go down there, back down now Across the quarry.

Speaker 1: 12:28

The quarry water was beautiful blue. That was gorgeous colour. Yeah, that was an amazing colour. I mean, yeah, it was stunning and we were so lucky it was such a beautiful day. Honestly, can you imagine what that would have been like if it was pissing down the rain? It would have been horrible. Yeah, you'd have got brain freeze. We're like like pounding against your head, I know, and the guy won it because we were the lap. We were like the end of the road, wasn't it as we, when we got off the lorry and the guy went, all right, ladies, and we were like, oh, I felt, so he went. Oh, don't worry, he went.

Speaker 1: 13:04

We've had a few adults that I've taken back down the mountain today because they didn't do it like, oh my god, oh my god, this is it, isn't it? And it's you know. You all know we've done like years of like inner work and stuff like that right out the bloody window. So this is intelligent when we tell you nobody ever has got this shit, sass, we're serious because it you haven't. When you're in that situation, that inner voice oh my god, yeah, it was 19 to the.

Speaker 1: 13:42

We were trying breathing techniques, weren't we? Yeah, I must admit, like the breathing was was hard, but I'm glad I knew about breathing. Yeah, definitely, because I think if I hadn't known about breathing, my nervous system would have been just spiked out of control, whereas it it sort of at the time didn't feel like everything was doing anything. But I think actually it did help. Yeah, didn't it? Definitely, like you say, to keep you on a little bit more of an even keel, because I think that adrenaline and that cortisol was going 19 to the dozen and that would have been easy for it to go out of control and then you would just lose been easy for it to go out of control and then you would just lose everything in your head.

Speaker 1: 14:31

Yeah, you know, I think for me, you know the awareness that my head was going you need to bottle this. Yeah, you're not going to get down there, you're going to bottle it everything. Yeah, if I hadn't been aware of that and I hadn't been aware that you could, like you say, you could use techniques to control that, I'd have been off down that fucking mountain. Yeah, and I've never been good with heights, so it's like in, you know, when we were, then it's sort of in the queue as such, because we were in like blocks of four people, weren't we? And that that I, yeah, I don't think I would have been in control of that at all without the breathing, to be honest. No, no, definitely not, especially when you went like because you have to let.

Speaker 1: 15:14

When it's your turn, you have to like you're in this harness, so you have to lay on this almost like it's like a foam bed, it's a plastic foam bed and they then clip your your hammock record it was. It was like a hammer, it was clipped your hammock to, obviously, the wire above you and did the things. And then they drop this tape, this, this table, drops away from you. So you're just hanging a bit like like um caterpillars doing their coco cocoons, isn't it? That's what it was like, yeah, but like lying flat, but laying, yeah, laying flat. So you're just hanging in this space waiting for them to do, which seemed like forever. Oh, it did seem like forever Because they check it, double check it, triple check it. And then you hear her on the walkie-talkie and then you know it's going to be a 3-2-1 countdown. And it was funny when in the pre-talk she went don't panic, because in Welsh the number two is die. So we're not saying so.

Speaker 1: 16:20

The minute that like wow, that weird sensation of just hanging there waiting, that is just really, really odd. And I think that's when me and you were both like breathe, I know this, is it in there? And then I start coming out with random fucking sayings because I'm trying to like control the nerves by trying to be funny, all of a sudden, and you've got this voice going what the fuck are you doing? When he said to me right, just get on, like just get up onto the bed thing, and my knees by this stage were knocking to my ankles and I just remember thinking I can't, I can't like, because you lay on this bed, but you're looking out, there's nothing. I mean you would like roll off, couldn't you down the mountain? It's just this void. And I just remember thinking I can't, I can't, I can't and you, you would slap yourself inside, don't you like? You can do this, you can do this, it there was so much power of the mind that day. Oh, honestly, just so much.

Speaker 1: 17:29

Because, like you, he said to me get on the bed when you're ready. And I went, I'm not sure, like you say, you look at it thinking I'm not fucking getting on that. I can't, I can't get on that. There's no gap. Look see, if I put my head there, you could know. See, literally, aren't you? You're lying on this bed this like like foam mattress thing three kilometers up a mountain and currently, when you lie on that bad bed, you are not strapped to anything. No, you're strapped. Your harness, like you say, your hammock's all strapped in, nicely, that's not attached to anything. When you first lie on that bed. No, it's weird.

Speaker 1: 18:14

I mean, like I tell you one thing, though, thinking about it now which for me, and I don't know about you, was a big overcome there's not once, during any of that process, that I, that I thought about the people behind me, no, what they were thinking or anything, which probably five well, yeah, five years and beyond that, that would have been also part of my panic. Oh, my god, what people are thinking. I've got, I've got to do this was what people say. I never actually once thought that. Just shit, I've not realized that. But now you say that I've only just thought that I didn't either.

Speaker 1: 19:04

We did a video, didn't we? So we did a video when we were up there, up there just saying shit, we're panicking, and but we've never. We didn't query that, we just did it. We didn't think about what other people were thinking. Not once, and that's a big credit to us. Wow, I haven't even thought about that. Yeah, because years ago I thought, oh Christ, what are people thinking if I'm going, oh my god, I can't do this, and yeah, or you know, like if I want to back out, but no, I never once thought, I didn't even think about it. No, I didn't even think about it.

Speaker 1: 19:40

It was, it was an amazing thing in what I think we know, we could, we know we have overcome and what actually you can overcome just by talking, the right talk to yourself oh, so much in there. It was because there was just so much. That's the thing in it because there is. So it is just so much you can, you can do. And it's amazing how, in normality, we allow, like those fears that we've made, we allow that to stop us from doing things, whereas we were. We were determined to do it. Yeah, I mean, and in a sense, maybe because we had an external reason apart from just us doing it, it was, it was for a purpose. Yeah, definitely, I'm sure that helped, but we were determined to overcome all that, those fear, all those fears we had, didn't we?

Speaker 1: 20:52

And it was really interesting, I think it is, and I think especially for you. You know you did that at the worst vulnerable time that you could have been at, you know, to be honest. So, to do that then, because it would have been easy for you to go no, it would have been easy to go. I can't. I can't do that now because it, you know, and nobody would have questioned, no, I guess not anything. I just had a big feeling in my heart that I really wanted to do it and I think it was, it was for me, part of the process. Yeah, for mum, yeah, so it gave me a big sense that I wanted to do it because I know mum, I know mum would have wanted me to because it was, it was for people that helped her. Yeah, so I did feel that that was a big sense in me that I was doing it for her. Yeah, definitely, yeah, you know, yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1: 22:00

But yeah, like you say, just what our inner voices, honestly, those that last bit where we were the next lot to go on, I was just like my head, I know, I know, yeah, that head is an absolute shit, isn't it? Oh, because, like you say, it is, isn't it? Because it is all in our head. You've got that inner voice in your head, but you've also all those fears are in your head. Yes, aren't they? Yeah, because all those fears are not really real. It's just what we make them. Yeah, and it's crazy, this is it, isn't it? Because we'd had a conversation with those there. You know, because I'm bigger, I was paranoid. A they wouldn't let me on. B it wouldn't be safe enough.

Speaker 1: 22:46

And that was all going through my head before we'd even got into the hammock, made worse by the fact that they weigh everybody, not just fat people, but they weigh everybody, just so they know what size hammock to give you, whether they to put a parachute on, whether they need to put weights on, because if you don't weigh enough, they need to put weights on so that you go. But that was another conversation we had, wasn't it that about weight and the fact actually there was no discrimination and and in life there shouldn't be no whether you were heavier, whether you were heavier, whether you were lighter, they were weighing that so that they could adapt it, whether they, like you say, gave you that little bit of sort of parachute-y bit to sort of break you a little bit, because otherwise Lynn would have gone about 120 miles an hour. Sorry, lynn, I wouldn't have done that. I was expecting to have had a cup of tea on the time of when you got down, but then you've got the. Because there were kids doing it. Yeah, there were. You've got people that are really really sort of slight in weight, so they need to be needed to be weighted. Yeah, so we had that conversation, didn't we?

Speaker 1: 23:57

Where that was interesting in the sense of why do we make it a deal? Oh, yeah, because we all do it when we're carrying a little bit of weight, it, it doesn't matter, no, and it had to be adapted for everybody, in the sense of whether you were carrying a little bit more weight or you weren't carrying enough weight, and that's the thing, what what's. But they didn't make a big deal of it, did they? There was no mention, you know, or will have to, they just did it once you were in that hammock enough way, and that's the thing, what what's. But they didn't make a big deal of it, did they? There was no mention, you know, or will have to, they just did it once you were in that hammock and lying that face. They just did what it is they needed to do.

Speaker 1: 24:30

Yeah, you know, they didn't query anything, did they? They didn't and, like you say, what it would, none of it was an issue. So it was really interesting on how they did that, but also really interesting for me how my head, your head, went away with it. Away with it. They're not good. Do you know what I mean? It's not safe for me to go down. But again, that was in my head because if it wasn't safe for me to go down, they wouldn't have let me go down, because at no point is a whole business going to risk me bouncing down the fucking mountain. Are they also those little kids, like if they hadn't have waited? Yeah, those smaller people. That's dangerous too. Well, yeah, this is it because they wouldn't have gone down, would they? So why do we create this thing in our heads? About weight, I know, but it was really interesting.

Speaker 1: 25:20

It was how, like you say that, where your head went with that, just to kind, how like interesting, how my head went with that just to try and avoid me actually getting on there. Yeah, so for the subconscious safety aspect, this is a dangerous act. So I'm going to give you every possible scenario I can to stop you getting on there. Yeah, yeah, it was going to use all that. Yeah, and it was doing, yeah, yeah, see it in your head. Yeah, like you say, it's every possible scenario you come up with because you're not getting on there, because it's fucking dangerous. It's funny, isn't it? It's so interesting. Yeah, yeah, when I was once I once I was on it and going, I loved it, you were loving it, I loved it, you were loving it.

Speaker 1: 26:14

But isn't it interesting when people have said to me would you do it again? And I, for the life of me, I can't go yeah, I'd do it again. No, and I don't know why. No, I, I know exactly what you mean, because people have said that and I've automatic, well, no, not automatic, it's almost like probably no, and actually I don't know why, because I know I can do it now. Yeah, so why couldn't I do it again? That's the thing in it and I can't put my finger on it either. Interesting, I can't because several people have said would you do it again? And I'm like I don't know. That's interesting and I don't know whether it's that.

Speaker 1: 26:59

It's that anxiety anxious bit before because, like I say, it was painful when we came off, oh my god, like my hands are, because they tuck your hands down the side of your hammock thing and there's these two little straps. I grabbed those straps so hard. My hands were ready, they felt raw and my arms were killing because I was grabbing on for like life or death, whereas I think they've squeezed me so far in that fucking hammock. My sides hurt, the back, in the middle of my back, I think they just like squeeze her in. She's good, but that was a.

Speaker 1: 27:42

I found that a weird feeling in the sense of like you are absolutely strapped in so tightly and you've got like, you've got goggles on, you've got a helmet on, and it felt like, oh my god, I am so enclosed now. That felt weird as well. Yeah, and I'm not claustrophobic or anything, but I did feel a bit like, oh my god, like I'm just like strapped, and it was like I was cling, filmed, almost like, and there were parts when I thought I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I think it's a massive lesson in trust. Yeah, yes, god, shit, yes, huge lesson in trust that you are putting your entire life in the hands of other people to make sure that they've strapped you into this hammock? Yeah, to stop you falling out. Yeah, it's funny, I mean, no, we should go. Do you know what? We can go for anything.

Speaker 1: 28:44

But I think there is that that, for me, really, that's what we should be saying. And when somebody says we do it again, we should be going. But yeah, so why why are we not saying that, don't know, interesting, see, for me I'd go and do something else. Yeah, maybe it is the fact like you've overcome it. So you've overcome it, so you've done it. Yeah, and maybe next time it wouldn't be the same. Maybe that's why because you know you've done it, whereas we didn't, we hadn't done it before.

Speaker 1: 29:20

No, so there's, there was that anxiety, anticipation, because you didn't know how it was going to feel, you didn't know if you could do it. Yeah, so maybe that now that you've done it once, it's a bit like, well, I've done it, you know we'll just leave it there, but I've done it, I know I can do it because I did it. But maybe it does have to be something different that you push yourself for I'm not sure there's anything that could push it any bigger than that just a skydive. Just a skydive. Yes, probably just hankering it, but yeah, it's just. It is interesting why that's not the case. Yeah, it's actually in it and, like you say, I don't know whether it's because you're thinking, oh, I've done that now, yeah, so I don't know whether it's you're not going to get the same.

Speaker 1: 30:18

Because we were like buzzing when we came off. Oh my God, yeah, I could feel, literally, I could feel that adrenaline, oh, huge, coursing around my body, absolutely huge. It's a huge hit on your body, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, mentally and physically. It's amazing how it hits you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it. It is like you say.

Speaker 1: 30:50

And when we came down in it, yeah, oh my god, yeah, just unbelievable and it's like a minute, yeah, it was because you're going so bloody fast. But going so fast, at one stage I felt like I wasn't moving. That's the bit weird thing. I thought, oh my God, I'm not moving. It was just going so fast. It's like, but it didn't feel like 100 miles an hour. No, it didn't, it just didn't, except for my face. But, like you know, when you see parachutes and all the air is going in your chest and all fucking around, like I knew I was going fast because of that, and and then it's like the air, isn't it? You're like, because I need to breathe as well, and all this air is going in my face.

Speaker 1: 31:33

I can't even remember what was going through my mind, that by that stage, again, you know, I don't know. I don't know what was going through my head. I don't know whether there was anything. I don't know. I don't know what was going through my head. I don't know whether there was anything. I don't think there was, to be honest, except pure fear. Yeah, in all honesty, I think at one point, when we first launched, I thought, oh fuck, I'm going to fall off. I hope I fall off in the water. I actually didn't. I didn't actually have any thoughts of the fact that I was gonna fall off once. Once we were going, I didn't actually think that at all. No, like you say, I though, I think there was just like that fleeting bit for me, but then I just thought, fuck it, I need to enjoy this, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 32:25

Hence why I was screaming and saying random words. I said random words on the end. See, the idea was we would say random words on our way down. Somebody forgot. So Lynn looks funny when she's shouting broccoli. Yeah, exactly, did you shout broccoli? Yes, I shouted broccoli. Why? Because we had a deal, we were going to shout broccoli and somebody forgot. So now I just look like a complete and utter twat shouting broccoli. All I could say was I'm shit. That fascinated me.

Speaker 1: 33:06

Why did I not swear, apart from yes, you didn't. Normally, as you all know, I am the swear of the bunch, is it? Yeah, when I was up there, I didn't swear once. No, you didn't swear once. No, you didn't. I said I suddenly went oikoi about like swearing, I don't know why, because it was other people, I don't know. Yeah, it was quite good, because I had the f-bomb a couple of times.

Speaker 1: 33:34

Because it was so windy on the camera, you couldn't hear it. You could probably, if you're a mouth reading, you're all right. You couldn't hear it because the wind was like in your face and in the obviously in the camera bit, isn't it? So you couldn't hear nothing. You may be screaming, though, to be honest. Oh, it was amazing. It was amazingly terrifying. Terrifying, but it was, it was.

Speaker 1: 34:03

It was in so many areas, psychologically, mentally, like. It was just incredible, very thought provoking, very, yeah, like you say. I think for us, especially now, afterwards, when you look back at that and like you say the bit that we've just noticed about. Afterwards, when you look back at that, and like you say that the bit that we've just noticed about and we've not actually noticed it before, about the fact that, you know, we didn't give a thought, yeah, about what other people thought of us, about what other people with you know, and I think that's a thing that's been quite big in our lives, hasn't it? Oh christ, yeah. So, yeah, that was that's really interesting. It is really interesting because, honestly, till you said that, it has not even occurred to me.

Speaker 1: 34:49

So, yeah, it is like you say, so many levels, just that fact that actually, sometimes, well, I don't think, sometimes, like, for me personally, I think it's all the time that and that's on a personal level, but if you challenge yourself and you overcome those challenges, the massive, profound effect it can have on you. Yeah, because now I think, well, nothing's an issue, is it? No, it shouldn't be, because we've done that, yeah, and that brought up every fear possible, to be honest. Yeah, every fear, yeah, you know you said about trust and you know, yeah, so all those things and the personal fears that we put on ourselves. Yeah, yeah, I think there is something about and for me as well, just, you know, when you do this stuff, you know that the mind is powerful, yeah, but actually to experience that in that, at that level, in that way, that was really profound, I think. I think it is, yeah, I think it is because you can see it working in real time, yeah, and be aware of it in real time, yeah, in a situation that is really challenging a lot, yeah, of your belief systems and your fears and, yeah and everything, yeah, and total proof that they, they are all it. You know there's a lot in your head that goes on that we just do not have to listen to and actually we have control of, yeah, and the fact that you know, like you say, it will have you believing all sorts of shit that just isn't real. No, it isn't true. Yeah, because we would have both. If we'd given into that, we would have both been another couple of adults that went back down. That, yeah, we would have been. And, if I'm truthful, if you'd asked me to do that five years ago, I wouldn't even done it. No, nor me, absolutely not. I wouldn wouldn't even done it. No, nor me, absolutely not. I wouldn't have even done it, I'd have gone. No, you're right, thanks, but no, that's not for me, I can't do that. Yeah, oh God, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't have even entertained the idea. No At all, idea, no at all.

Speaker 1: 37:18

So we should be a bit proud of ourselves. Yeah, I think we should take a little bit of credit. We will take some credit for that. We will give ourselves some credit for that. We will. Yeah, we should be. Actually, yeah, we should, we should be really doing that, and the amount that we've raised and everything, I just think you know it's been that's a whole big tub of gratitude that, oh, we've got, because for people to just give and you know, you're talking about trust people trusted us that we would do that because they gave before we did it.

Speaker 1: 37:45

Yeah, yeah, some gave afterwards, but mainly it was given before we did it. Yeah, that they would trust that we would do that. Yeah, so, but isn't that interesting? Somebody said to me before we did it and they said, because they they knew about your mum, well, it don't matter, at least it's still going to a good cause if we didn't do it. Oh, really, yeah, so they still would. But if we wouldn't? But I think, yeah, you know, yeah, interesting, but yeah, it is fascinating, absolutely fast, and on that note we've regaled our whole story of our zipline adventure. But we just wanted to say because, like you're saying it, we wanted you to know that that happens to us and yeah, and?

Speaker 1: 38:33

But actually challenging yourself and facing everything, yeah, we still have challenges. Yeah, you know as much as we talk about it and you know we understand things. It's still things still challenge you and things still creep up on you. But for me, I think it did make me realise that just being able to be aware of those challenges, aware of the fears, the emotions, all of that can make a huge difference. Massive, just massive. Yeah, and actually challenging yourself to overcome that has a massive effect on your life too, for the better. Yeah, yeah. So guys, don't be afraid to say yes, say yes and get out there and do shit, do and even if for you it's the smallest, it might seem a big thing, but for other people it might seem small, just face it and do it absolutely, because actually it's a game changer, yeah, yeah, all right, me, darlings, we'll leave you to it. Have the most fabulous day, take care bye.